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Bombarded by Smart Meters letters

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far from exceptional ,
i went onto uswitch typed in my post code and i get the absolute max of 4 companies to pick from .
ALL of which are far more expensive apart from 1 company called BULB .

i live in a small ( ish ) town in Scotland that is serviced by very little in the way of companies .
the choices i get when i enter my details for electric , gas are simple

EDF
Scottish power
e-on
and bulb .

if i dont go through uswitch and go to energy companies directly i get more options ( 7 companies )
mainly same companies but with other options of tariffs to chose from and DD ONLY options.
several state they currently only cover larger towns , cities
but ALL companies are far more expensive than British gas . some are as much as £400 more than we currently pay .
and funny enough the companies who charge more are the so called "" green energy suppliers ""
Thanks for your reply James. It sounds as though you are either detached from the National Grid or have only a weak link to it. British Gas is much cheaper than the others so it sounds as though British Gas actually supplies the energy to your area. For other companies it is either expensive so they charge more, or don't want to know. They would need to "buy" the energy from British Gas to sell on to you, which is hardly competition. At any rate you have made an interesting revelation.

It is sadly true that the "green" suppliers tend to be more expensive. Nature's energy may be "free" but the cost of setting up wind farms and solar farms, and the associated rent, is considerable in relation to the power generated.
Hi

I've just seen this thread. I know someone who worked as an Energy Champion for CAB. His opinion was wait for SMETS2 - with which you can change energy company easily (there are issues with first generation ones stopping sending data to your energy company if you move). I think one reason for repeated mailings from energy companies is that they are under obligation to do all they can to ensure smart meters are rolled out, but customers are free to refuse until a point when their meter becomes inoperable anyway.

Jane
when I was a child in the 1970s we used to have a meter with a disc that spun round fast when you put the kettle on and much slower the rest of the time. Nothing new under the sun and not much more help in analyzing your overall usage. Several hours of that slow spinning added up to a lot more than several 3 minute fast spins - can't imagine it'll be any clearer with a smart meter. I think the distinction between the cost of prepayment and account payment is the difference rather than the benefits of a smartmeter.
James83 wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:52 pm
. . .
i went onto uswitch typed in my post code and i get the absolute max of 4 companies to pick from .
ALL of which are far more expensive apart from 1 company called BULB .

i live in a small ( ish ) town in Scotland that is serviced by very little in the way of companies .
the choices i get when i enter my details for electric , gas are simple

EDF
Scottish power
e-on
and bulb .
. . .
Denis_1610 wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:30 am
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It is sadly true that the "green" suppliers tend to be more expensive. Nature's energy may be "free" but the cost of setting up wind farms and solar farms, and the associated rent, is considerable in relation to the power generated.
Well, it's "hat-eating" time! Our tariff expired, and we went onto the "standard variable" one. I checked on USwitch and found that this time our current supplier could not offer any new tariff that was competitive.

It turned out that Bulb was one of the cheapest for us. There were notably a few other "green" companies even cheaper but by only a few pounds a year. I chose Bulb, not least after noting comments from James and others; it seems to be building a good reputation and is prepared to cover far-reaching parts of Scotland. (I presume it has a stake in the hydro-electric plant there.)

So "Green" can be cheaper after all! Maybe the tide is turning, and the initial investment in renewable plant is starting to pay off. Our switch is now complete and I like Bulb's website - straightforward and easy to submit meter readings, review consumption, review bills, etc.
the saving from bulb was worthless ,, it would have saved us £10 a year ( up to £10 ) .
i since done homework into Bulb and it appears those in remote serviced areas get a questionable service provided.
any time they have power issues , they attempt to contact bulb and get no answer , or told we cant answer that sorry , what are you calling us for , we dont make the power so dont contact us in the future.

But the same can be applied for ALL major companies regardless of what they sell / provide etc .
be it Virgin , O2 , SKY , vodaphone etc etc etc , it purely depends on who you actually get handling your call in the call centre or if you have been unlucky enough to get through to a third party call centre .

hydro power is in pockets up here , only tends to benefit those within a set area , same with rubbish horrid wind turbines .
infact just the other day one of scotlands largest wind farms is being closed , and the company is no longer opening new wind farms ,,, just so happens the owner is a Spanish company , and they say its north worth the money , time , effort , to expensive to run ,,, to expensive to put the electric into the grid ,, and they never kept to there word of making wind turbines in scotland , they were always built out of the UK and built in Poland , Germany , Norway etc etc .


and i sure as heck wont be stupid enough to change over to the so called not for profit power supposedly being run 100% by the scottish assembly .. when its now come out they want NOTHING to do with it , and the favoured idea is to piggy back councils onto companies already up and running , this was after an Edinburgh company that was backed by the scottish assembly closed down and lost millions of tax payers money handed to them on a golden plate
Thanks again for your comments, James. I am sorry you are less enthusiastic about Bulb. The best choice for one person may not be the best for another. It depends on how much fuel you use, and other things, including location.

If the power goes off, phone the company that supplies the local electricity network, not the firm to whom you pay your bill.

For the benefit of the forum, the number is commonly 105 (landline), though this may not apply to all areas such as yours.

It has been interesting to share our experiences, James - thank you.
My concern with these smaller companies is small fish in a big pond.

They do well for a year or two building up a customer base and good reputation then next thing you know they either fail to meet government targets or attract the attention of someone else and end up getting taken over/sold off, and the customers migrated over to a larger energy provider

Which is counter productive to why the government and ofgen think we should be more liberal with switching.. we need consistency and the stress these changes bring about cancel out any small savings we might achieve.

Not knocking it for those that pulled off a change and ended up better off for it i tip my hat but personally some of the horror stories involving the sort of behaviour i previously mentioned and billing/reactionary tactics by some firms (bailiff threats) I could do without.

Same story with alot of services really I've been with the same ISP for donkeys years its not the cheapest yet its reliable/rarely ever down and has a really lenient fair usage policy, I couldn't stand the constant switching of hardware (they all use different architecture/routers etc) for the sake of example a tenner not to mention the possibility of losing even that if the service fails, most other providers around here stink.
Honey Badger wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:49 pm
My concern with these smaller companies is small fish in a big pond.

They do well for a year or two building up a customer base and good reputation then next thing you know they either fail to meet government targets or attract the attention of someone else and end up getting taken over/sold off, and the customers migrated over to a larger energy provider.
Agreed. That's why I chose a provider that was growing in size and reputation, though some smaller providers were ostensibly slightly cheaper.
Which is counter productive to why the government and ofgen think we should be more liberal with switching.. we need consistency and the stress these changes bring about cancel out any small savings we might achieve.
Indeed!
Same story with alot of services really I've been with the same ISP for donkeys years its not the cheapest yet its reliable/rarely ever down and has a really lenient fair usage policy, I couldn't stand the constant switching of hardware (they all use different architecture/routers etc) for the sake of example a tenner not to mention the possibility of losing even that if the service fails, most other providers around here stink.
My philosophy entirely. I have been with the same Internet Service Provider for years. It's possibly not the best and certainly not the cheapest but I have enjoyed years of hassle-free service.
Well, our meter was reaching the end of its life, so we had to get a SMETS2 fitted :( We've deactivated the smart facility (woman at utility company said it couldn't be done, fitter said of course it could), but it's too early yet to predict what the bills will be like.