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Susan_201012345678 wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:29 am
sunnydisposition wrote:
Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:54 pm
Have a read ...

https://www.carersuk.org/help-and-advic ... assessment
So we could ask for a carers assessment for my Mum?
Needs assessment for Mum and carers assessment for you.

https://www.carersuk.org/help-and-advic ... assessment

https://www.carersuk.org/help-and-advic ... assessment
bowlingbun wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:33 am
If you are sure dad has to pay for the care he receives, then you can do whatever you want.
That means that he has over roughly £46,000 in savings.

After I had a head on smash that nearly killed me, I had a private physiotherapist to help me recover from knee replacements, all paid for by the car insurance in my case. She also worked in the NHS with my consultant, and said how much she enjoyed seeing me, and being able to give me all the sessions I needed, rather than the standard NHS amount.

If you parents' savings are just over the threshold, think about how to reduce their savings lawfully. You can spend whatever you like on proper treatment for them, they can have new carpets if some a getting thin, etc. Maybe a walk in shower.

As a retired nurse yourself, maybe employing a fully qualified nurse for a few hours a week would be better than the no qualification carers?
I can't imagine how hard it must be for younger people after traumatic injuries ,trying to get the therapy input they need. The NHS spends so much on "medical" interventions and way too little on the rest.
I looked at some physio for Dad at our local private hospital after his hip fracture and they were prepared to provide it for £40 per 30 mins, but I didn't have much success finding anyone at a private practice. There are a few practices in the area, but non that say they do anything with older people. I might contact the private hospital again but not sure if they're open ATM. He would definitely benefit from some balance training and that was the comment that that the Falls consultant made in the GP letter.

I think one of the HUGE advantages of finding someone privately would be the continuation of care, which over and over again has been shown to be beneficial to people with enduring health problems, and also in people suffering with dementia. ATM he only has 2 visits a week and one week in 2 it's 2 different carers. Also the fact that I could explain things to someone face to face and put together our own care plan.
The carers can't get there till 09.30 so he has his breakfast in his dressing gown. Mum used to go in the shower straight after him when the other carers came at 08.30, but with the current timings she can't do that as it takes them into lunchtime.

I've found a website called curamcare that has some local private carers. I thought I might contact some of them. Some have worked as HCA's in the NHS and one was actually a RN. I wonder if anyone has any experience of the site, or how people have found their own carers?

Yes, re the savings. We're looking at the bathroom ATM as the current shower tray has a fixed glass panel and tray is too small for a shower chair. We explored the service the council offer re survey, finding a contractor, overseeing the work etc as the online bumpf said "for a small fee". The fee is 15% so we won't be going that route.

We're also in the process of getting quotes to make the front of the garage into an insulated utility area. It needs a new roof anyway, and the garage door is broken. The washing machine and tumble dryer are out there and it's freezing in the winter.

Do you know if they would be seen as "deliberately trying to reduce their assets" if they gave some money to their grandson if there's a genuine need, ie he has no savings and hasn't been in full time contracted work since he got his degree 3 years ago until last March. At the moment he's furloughed on his basic pay (BA cabin crew) and getting about £950 a month. His rent is £650. We were thinking about them putting some money into an ISA for him? They already give him £300 a month and have done for several years.

Thanks so much for the input. Really appreciate it
Are you on your local Facebook group?
I've seen people say "Can anyone recommend a ..." and usually they get replies about who has been great.
After all, if you dad needs an hour physio, that would be easy for a young qualified mum not currently working.
It's the same with carers. Maybe put an ad in your local paper for a trained nurse to help? You'd get far better quality of care that way.
I would have thought sorting out the garage door and the bathroom would be a good idea. With residential care homes costing £1,000+ in my area, it wouldn't be many weeks of care! The better adapted their home is the longer they can stay there.
That's only a lay person's view of course.
Not sure about giving money to the grandson though. Hopefully he'll be flying soon.
bowlingbun wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 6:56 pm
Are you on your local Facebook group?
I've seen people say "Can anyone recommend a ..." and usually they get replies about who has been great.
After all, if you dad needs an hour physio, that would be easy for a young qualified mum not currently working.
It's the same with carers. Maybe put an ad in your local paper for a trained nurse to help? You'd get far better quality of care that way.
I would have thought sorting out the garage door and the bathroom would be a good idea. With residential care homes costing £1,000+ in my area, it wouldn't be many weeks of care! The better adapted their home is the longer they can stay there.
That's only a lay person's view of course.
Not sure about giving money to the grandson though. Hopefully he'll be flying soon.
Yes I'm on several groups local to us and my parents (they live about 6 miles away from us) but one of Dad's current carers lives just up the road from him and her mother (who was his carer briefly when we first changed to this new provider) is on the same group so a little reluctant to post on there. I've posted before about power cuts etc on their street before , so it wouldn't take a genius to work out who I was, but I could certainly post on other pages and specify the area. The ad' in the local paper sounds like an idea too.

Can I ask what the relevance of the £46k is please? They aren't "just over" that amount. They've never been people to spend a lot of money on their home or luxury items. They loved their holidays (Dad was a geography teacher) and travelled abroad 3-4 times a year but haven't been away anywhere since just before Dad broke his hip 3 years ago, so their savings are increasing . They both have their OAP's (Mum doesn't get the full amount) and teachers pensions, I need to look at how charges for residential homes work. Looked before but not sure it was very clear to me.

The current agency can't provide what Dad needs (increase to 3 showers a week and shorter visits on other days to check he's taken meds, had inhalers and put stockings on etc), but say they won't work with other agencies. Is this usual? I can see the logic there but it makes things difficult.
The last agency we had were unreliable and one of the carers used to be on his phone (not having a conversation) whilst supervising Dad in the shower.
If a couple have over £46,000 then Social Services won't contribute towards their care at all. Below that, there's a sliding scale. They can pay you, but make sure it's all done formally, via a payroll service, so SSD can't be difficult if they get below that figure.
sunnydisposition wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:28 pm
Susan_201012345678 wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:29 am
sunnydisposition wrote:
Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:54 pm
Have a read ...

https://www.carersuk.org/help-and-advic ... assessment
So we could ask for a carers assessment for my Mum?
Needs assessment for Mum and carers assessment for you.

https://www.carersuk.org/help-and-advic ... assessment

https://www.carersuk.org/help-and-advic ... assessment
I contacted social services and they asked questions re independence in bathing and dressing and told me Mums only entitled to a carers assessment. Do they not use the criteria that's covered by the AA application form? I think that has things like maintaining a safe home environment in and asks if you need help ( even if you don't currently have help) with ADLs? I know my Mum struggles to bend to put socks and shoes on , therefore must struggle to wash and dry her feet, plus pain and neuropathy limit what she can do re home and personal care . She has memory problems and has been assessed as at moderate risk of falls by a consultant 3/4 yrs ago. As they're self funding and given the poor service we've had from SS re Dad , I'm wondering if I should just apply for AA for Mum and sort some care out privately via the company who provide Dad's care.
Any advice please?
Anyone?
SS called today . Support worker.
She was very reluctant to carry out even a carers assessment for Mum. " She'll have to have a financial assessment and you'll end up with 2 separate invoices. Better just to reassess Dad and increase his care package". At the time it didn't feel right but she was one of those women who jabbbers on and takes 3 sentences to communicate what could be said in one.
Now I realise that surely that's wrong and Mum should have an assessment in her own role as a carer?
Mum is legally entitled to an assessment in her own right. Go to "Quick Links" top left, go to the main site, and search for "Carers Assessment". Or go to the LA's own website and see what it says there.
bowlingbun wrote:
Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:55 pm
Mum is legally entitled to an assessment in her own right. Go to "Quick Links" top left, go to the main site, and search for "Carers Assessment". Or go to the LA's own website and see what it says there.
Thanks so much BB. I'll have a look. I'm really struggling with my own health needs ATM. All getting a bit too much and I'm feeling overwhelmed. Do you have any experience with " Social prescribers" ? Apparently GP surgery has a link worker and you can ask GP for a referral?
Never heard of a "social prescriber". Sounds like a fancy term for not a lot?!?!
I was sent to a "life coach" at my GP surgery, made all sorts of suggestions about do this, that, and the other, not listening to me about my health issues, what I used to be like before I got ill, fit as a flea, strong as a man. Utterly useless.