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For anyone who is bereaved or no longer providing care.
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Sandra, it looks to me like you are only stating the same thing but in different words, it might help our members if they had some insight into why you feel these steps are necessary.
Adding a twist to this but still on topic - most of us in agreement that Sandra's suggestions not workable, but as many have stated, something is needed for how we pay for care in the future. Soon there will not be a family untouched by these situations re care.

So the question is, aside from Sandra's suggestions, how would YOU like to see care paid for in future??

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Personally, I think everyone in hospital should pay something towards their food, a sort of "board and lodging" rate, perhaps £5 a day, as everyone has to eat.
The food in hospital is minging so why should people be asked to pay for stuff which is practically inedible?

Why not abolish the Trident nuclear weapon replacement, which will cost us all £100,000,000,000 ... er yes, that's £100 billion squids. That saving would pay for everyone in hospital to eat lobster and caviar for decades... and why not? They have deserved a decent diet.

Either that or put a cap on MP's pay and expenses at the average wage, abolish the House of Lords and privatise the Monarchy which would do much the same thing .... Image

Why don't Tories want to privatise the Monarchy, by the way? I mean, the Royal Mail has gone, and that means a lot more to most of us than the grouse shooting parasites in their gilded palaces, doesn't it?
But Trident is totally useless. Even Enoch Powell knew that: "The crucial question is whether there is any stage of a European war at which any nation would choose self-annihilation in preference to prolonging the struggle. The Secretary of State says, "Yes, the loser or likely loser would almost instantly choose self-annihilation." I say, "No. The probability, though not the certainty, but surely at least the possibility, is that no such point would come, whatever the course of the conflict."

Speech in the House of Commons (1 March 1967).

and again: "The prospect of a Russian conquest of Western Europe is one for which history affords no material. The theory that the Russians have not advanced from the Elbe to the Atlantic because of the nuclear deterrent is not more convincing than the theory that they have not done so because they do not want to do so and have never envisaged, unless perhaps in terms of world revolution, a Russian hegemony in Western Europe... Of all the nations of Europe, Britain and Russia are the only ones, though for opposite reasons, which have this thing in common: that they can be defeated in the decisive land battle and still survive. This characteristic, which Russia owes to her immensity, Britain owes to her moat". Speech to The Hague (17 May 1971), from The Common Market: Renegotiate or Come Out (Elliot Right Way Books, 1973), p. 97, p. 100.
Personally, I think everyone in hospital should pay something towards their food, a sort of "board and lodging" rate, perhaps £5 a day, as everyone has to eat.
That's a great idea BB, makes a lot of sense to me. Any profit generated could be ploughed into a social care fund, to help out with care for elderly and disabled people of all ages. I would go further and make it a little higher... say £7 or £8 a day, so that the costs of heating/water/cleaning etc could also be covered. Patients save money on these things while they are staying in hospital, so it seems fair for patients to contribute in this way. Some might say it would be a tax on the ill, but they'd only be contributing part of what they'd have spent on those things if they weren't in hospital.

I've been pondering about my father's situation and the issue of how far his care might or should be funded by the state/taxpayers. Dad worked full time from the age of 14 until he was 67, so paid into the system for 53 years, and like Robert, he was once paying 40% tax on his earnings. I suspect that even if the state funds him for 5 years in the care home, he's probably contributed more into the system than those care costs, but it would be a tricky thing to work out. Plus of course some of his taxes will have been used on other things that he's had the benefit of, like the NHS.

I agree with SussexRokx that this country should reduce the amount of aid that it sends overseas. Charity begins at home - let's get our own country sorted out first, and if we have spare cash left over then we can think about improving things for other countries. I think that giving to charity should be a matter of personal choice, not forced on people through taxation. (Apart from when huge natural disasters occur, when our government can step in quickly before funding is raised from donations.)
I don't think anyone who saw the footage coming from the Philippines recently, and who had a scrap of empathy with the suffering of their fellow human beings, would agree with you. If anything can justify the very large navy that we have, it is seeing their helicopters getting vital food, shelter and medical supplies to save lives in devastated communities. I really can't see that being done by the likes of Oxfam in a few short hours and days, can you?
Anyway, scrapping Trident would save the need to charge patients for 20,000,000,000 meals. Yes, 20 billion meals. I don't know how hungry the average NHS patient is, but I have a feeling that would be a stack of meals reaching from Earth to Jupiter and back. And don't forget the hassle of having to collect it all, not inconsiderable.
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