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Direct payments urgent advise - Page 3 - Carers UK Forum

Direct payments urgent advise

All about money
bowlingbun wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:47 am
Ritchie,

Your next step is to ask Social Services for a "2014 Care Act Advocate".

The advocate will be someone from an independent service, free of charge, who can help and support you through the meetings. When I'm stressed at meetings, some things go in one ear and out the other, so the advocate can make notes about what was said that we can go through afterwards.
I defo will do hopefully I can just move foward and be able to pay them back even if it’s a little a week I don’t want nothing to do with there money no more I just try survive my self x
I wouldn't say anything to them about paying them back to start with, because if they had been doing their jobs properly this situation would never have arisen in the first place.
There is no reason why your son should not continue to have Direct Payments though, they just need to appoint an independent person to manage them.
This is probably what they should have done right from the start, and they most definitely should have done more long, long ago.
bowlingbun wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:20 am
I wouldn't say anything to them about paying them back to start with, because if they had been doing their jobs properly this situation would never have arisen in the first place.
There is no reason why your son should not continue to have Direct Payments though, they just need to appoint an independent person to manage them.
This is probably what they should have done right from the start, and they most definitely should have done more long, long ago.
Do u think I live in hope but not that hopefully to be fair think there just cancel them am make me pay them back or investergate I have no idea to b fair but I know our life’s are gunba chabge my sons so used to my mum doing his care and with his autism he likes the same ppl no change x
That's why having someone else to manage the DP's would be the best solution for your son. He would see no change in his care, and it will be a huge relief for you to get rid of them.
bowlingbun wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:47 pm
That's why having someone else to manage the DP's would be the best solution for your son. He would see no change in his care, and it will be a huge relief for you to get rid of them.
Hi guys am back with a update well had meeting with social services and dp so glad I got it out there and they want some bank statements 5 years worth to do a audit but they have told me there worse case is I have to pay it back which of course am happy to do also now to sort out my sons care they want carers but my sons hosp are saying carers can’t do hemo
So she wants me to do hemo and carers to do am not sure what ...they want to meet this week my problem is tho that there has to b two trains ppl to do dylise at home and I’ve got a 5 year old also so I’ve no idea how this is gunna pan out thank you guys tho u give me hope when I was lost x
Thanks Ritchie.

However it pans out , your son's needs MUST be addressed ... first and foremost.

A joint effort between the NHS and the local SS ???

Nursing care ... what do the local SS know about that ???

( Another vote for recombining those ugly twin sisters ... the NHS and Social Care ... under one roof ? )
Ritchie, you do NOT have to provide bank statements so far back for them to do an audit over such a long time.
They had a duty to audit them every three months, and if they haven't done that, then more fool them. Just send them three months worth, you could go to the Local Government Ombudsman about their breach of duty!
Don't just roll over and do whatever they want, they've mucked up seriously too!
YOU cannot be responsible for the dialysing at home. The NHS need to sort this out for you, maybe by something called NHS Continuing Healthcare. It would put one or other of your children at risk in doing so. It is NOT up to Social Services to tell you what to do in connection with your son's health. That is up to the NHS to sort out.
Have they sorted out an advocate for you and for your son.

Please, please, don't attend any more meetings about your finances until they've sorted the advocate out for you to support you.

Failure to do this for you would amount to yet another breach of the Care Act!
Mmmm ... had me thoughts earlier on ... CHC / NHS Continuing Healthcare ... in all it's gory details :

https://www.carersuk.org/forum/support- ... read-35998

If sanctioned , kiss goodbye to your local SS and LA ... it's purely a NHS matter ... and FREE !
bowlingbun wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:13 pm
Ritchie, you do NOT have to provide bank statements so far back for them to do an audit over such a long time.
They had a duty to audit them every three months, and if they haven't done that, then more fool them. Just send them three months worth, you could go to the Local Government Ombudsman about their breach of duty!
Don't just roll over and do whatever they want, they've mucked up seriously too!
YOU cannot be responsible for the dialysing at home. The NHS need to sort this out for you, maybe by something called NHS Continuing Healthcare. It would put one or other of your children at risk in doing so. It is NOT up to Social Services to tell you what to do in connection with your son's health. That is up to the NHS to sort out.
Have they sorted out an advocate for you and for your son.

Please, please, don't attend any more meetings about your finances until they've sorted the advocate out for you to support you.

Failure to do this for you would amount to yet another breach of the Care Act!
Thank you how do I go about gettting someone to attend meetings with me and I didn’t know they stating I have to provide 5 years worth of statements from when I first opened my direct payments accounts am still very stressed over the matter there sending carers to me today to have a chat but my sons hosp have al ready stated that they can’t touch the machine so I don’t know wat help there be to be fair I had nhs package in with my direct payments so that’s messed up also I just feel to say Sod it all and just go it alone as it’s my fault in the beginning for messing everything up I’ve seeked some debt help and crawling my way back to normality slowly but it’s still weighing over me massively thank you advice appreciated x
Ritchie, just ring up Social Services Complaints Department, not the local office but their HQ and make a formal complaint about the way you are being treated, and INSIST that you AND YOUR SON have an advocate and something is sorted out before Christmas.


Please can you tell me exactly what NHS support you have had previously.
Why was it cancelled.
This does not round right at all.