Universal credit

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Hi ,according to the Independent ,the govt are going to pause the roll out of
universal cock up .
But a bit of luck they will abandon the whole sorry mess .
Daily mail this morning Theresa May stated she would not put a hold on it. She would make the phone calls for claimant free.
UC roll out ?

Major thread in the NEWS section :

https://www.carersuk.org/forum/news-and ... erty-30601

34 articles and rising as the roll out saga continues.
sunnydisposition wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:23 pm
Daily mail this morning Theresa May stated she would not put a hold on it. She would make the phone calls for claimant free.
Hi ,i knew the vote wasn't binding ,but if this govt had any compassion they would abandon the whole sorry mess.
10 million + , and another 10 million not directly in the steamroller's path , would agree with that one.

A " Poll Tax " moment for the Government ... this time around , they're going ahead ... with consequences a little too dire to imagine even if the policy makers cannot see beyond their salaries , and gold plated pensions.

Statistics are one thing ... human beings again , a poor second.
"If this government had any compassion"...That's the problem they haven't.
I sometimes feel with Social Services they blame me for having a disabled child so I could annoy them, they have absolutely no idea how much my life changed forever the day he was born.
Yesterday, after complaining by email to the care company directors that the local care manager lied to about a factual matter, and circulating it to everyone involved in an earlier complaint to Social Services, I had a reply from one of the directors. Did she promise an urgent investigation? No.
Did she apologise? No.
Instead she told me that I had absolutely no right to send copies of my complaint to nine different people!
Needless to say I wrote an immediate reply saying I could write to whoever I wanted etc. etc. What she didn't know was that CQC have already had copies of my other formal complaints which remain unacknowledged or dealt with, so in fact, she fell right into the trap I set, only she hadn't realised.
As yet, I haven't heard from Social Services about this either.
bowlingbun wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:23 pm
"If this government had any compassion"...That's the problem they haven't.
I sometimes feel with Social Services they blame me for having a disabled child so I could annoy them, they have absolutely no idea how much my life changed forever the day he was born.
Yesterday, after complaining by email to the care company directors that the local care manager lied to about a factual matter, and circulating it to everyone involved in an earlier complaint to Social Services, I had a reply from one of the directors. Did she promise an urgent investigation? No.
Did she apologise? No.
Instead she told me that I had absolutely no right to send copies of my complaint to nine different people!
Needless to say I wrote an immediate reply saying I could write to whoever I wanted etc. etc. What she didn't know was that CQC have already had copies of my other formal complaints which remain unacknowledged or dealt with, so in fact, she fell right into the trap I set, only she hadn't realised.
As yet, I haven't heard from Social Services about this either.
"If this government had any compassion"
Sorry about that ,my mistake what was i thinking .

Good for you Bun ,that should stir them up a bit.
I think the SS have the same attitude to towards us poor sods who have to deal with them ,as the bus driver who said
he could not stick to the time table because he had to stop to let people on and off .
Here is a government that clearly doesn't care. Whilst they sit and eat their Christmas lunch I don't expect they will give the poorest of people a second thought!


Tory MP breaks down in tears at Labour MP's story about family invited to a funeral just so they could eat
Heidi Allen urges colleagues to 'make this better' after hearing tales of despair the policy is causing

Tuesday 5 December 2017 22:01 GMT
Tory MP breaks down in tears over story about family invited to a funeral just so they could eat
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A Conservative MP was moved to tears after listening to a Labour colleague describe how the Government’s universal credit left one of his constituents contemplating suicide and others forced to attend a funeral in order to eat.


Heidi Allen was visibly upset as she rose to speak in a debate on the controversial policy, the implementation of which has been the subject of criticism from across the political spectrum.


The South Cambridgeshire MP was speaking moments after Labour’s Frank Field, who represents Birkenhead, told the Commons he had had to persuade a man not to take his own life because of the “destitution” the welfare policy has caused.


Speaking immediately afterwards, Ms Allen paused and said: “I don't know where to start after that. I'm humbled by the words from my honourable, good friend from Birkenhead.

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"No government is perfect, no benefits system is perfect, no debate, no motion is perfect, but by God we work together and make this better."


She began talking about the work of the Work and Pensions Committee, which she sits on, but her voice cracked as she fought to control her emotions. “I’m not very good at this job, am I?” she said.
Mr Field, who chairs the committee, intervened to give Ms Allen a chance to compose herself, saying: "I'm just amazed for the first time I've been able to report those events publicly without weeping.


"I'm so affected by them, I'm affected as she is. That's the debate we're really having - how do we represent here the desperateness of many of our constituents when many of us feel we can't offer them hope."

In his speech, he had described having to urge one constituent not to take his own life amid despair among many of those who are in receipt of universal credit.


The Birkenhead MP said: "I've done surgeries for 38 years. On my last surgery Friday, for the first time ever a gentleman rose after we had spoken, I had tried to persuade him not to commit suicide, such was the desperateness that he saw the future for himself, and I realised the hand that shook my hand was wet. 

He'd been crying. And the hand that shook my hand was the hand that wiped away those tears.”


Mr Field also recounted how a charity in his constituency had helped a family who brought in a child that was “crying with hunger”.


The family were so short of money that they had been invited to a funeral by their neighbours so that they could finish the food left by other guests, according to the MP.


He said: "The father said it had been a lucky week for him because neighbours had taken pity and invited him to a funeral so they could finish off the food after the other funeral guests had been fed.

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"When the little boy was shown a shelf where toys were, but also on that shelf were lunch packs, he chose the lunch pack.


"This is the background of growing destitution that I see in my constituency and against which we have to judge Universal Credit and the debate we're having today."

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He said the cumulative effect of welfare changes in recent years is that many of his constituents have been left in “destitution”.


"We've made decisions in this House to favour pensioner households against ordinary families,” he said. 
The debate was called by Labour in an attempt to force the Government to release reports on the impact of universal credit.
Facing the prospect of a binding vote, ministers backed down and agreed to publish the assessments before Christmas.
Yep ... highlighted in the main UC thread.

Quite a few local rags are featuring Christmas Day diners for prisoners ... in comparison with those to be " Enjoyed " by , around , 13 million of our fellow citizens.
We need a government that accepts that some people are disabled and incapable of work. To allow them some dignity. My son's brain damaged (caused by an unqualified NHS midwife without supervision, but no chance of compensation as she didn't write anything on the labour notes for THREE HOURS) is lifelong. The day he was born we were all handed a life sentence, we do our very best to help M live a life as near as possible to the one he would have had, but it's been an endless struggle as we have to fight, fight, and fight again.
We fought education all the way to the Secretary of State for Education, we fought again to get him the college he needed, we fought again to find the residential care he needed, and since that closed down, we've fought Social Services and useless care providers. Why do we have to fight for everything? Only when there is an acceptance that the weakest in society need, and should have, a reasonable standard of living and care.
40 years ago children like my son would be in long term residential care provided and paid for by the state, for life. Different governments have had different plans, all involving me doing more and more!