Transfering from no end date DLA to PIP?

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Hi all,

The person I care for just got a dreaded letter to say they need to transfer from DLA to PIP. The letter nicely warns that just because they're getting DLA now doesn't mean they're going to get PIP and I've seen plenty in the press to cause serious concern.

The person I care for has MS and has had it for thirty years, been on DLA higher rate all that time. Their health as seriously deteriorated over recent years, and there's no way they'd be able to return to work or survive on the lower rate PIP, so I'm really concerned for them.

I've heard horror stories about Atos and what not, but it all tends to be connected to new applications or people who were perhaps not classed as "no end date" with their DLA.

Does anyone have any experience with this situation? Does the "no end date" not matter when counting towards PIP? Are you just treated the same as everyone else when applying or do they go a little easier on people who have been on DLA in such a way for so long?

Also, home visits - in these cases do they do home visits? Are you guaranteed to have to be seen by someone either at a location or at home regardless of your condition/time on DLA? And if they do home visits, do they want to look around?

Thanks all, any info would be hugely appreciated.
I asked DWP to get a visiting officer to fill in my son's form as I have arthritic hands. He was VERY good, and I would not have given all the right information without his help (and I've been helping with forms like this for over 40 years!!!)
For example "Can M dress himself?" Yes. "Does he always wear the right clothes for the weather?" No, he forgets a coat or gloves in cold weather, or wants to wear shorts when it's sunny but cold. "In that case, he DOES need help dressing.
So tell DWP wife needs help with form filling.

As a result, my son was awarded highest care and mobility (he had a lifelong DLA award) without anyone even seeing him.
Hi Lea,

Here is a link to further info about PiP. ... ce-payment

CarersUK also have a helpline that can go through things with you

As BB has suggested you could ask someone from DWP to help fill the forms in. There are also Citizens advice Bureau, welfare rights officers and depending on age of the person you care for, AGE UK can sometimes help too. Depends on what services each area offers. You can check yours on link below if relevant.

Sorry if overloading you with links but these days you cant have enough just in case the 1st one is busy.
MS society have a helpline too ... 0wodUtEAPA

A lot of info here too ... nt-booklet

Write notes down separately before filling form in. Means you can cross out and add stuff as they come in to your mind. Only once totally satisfied then add to form. Once it is complete, photocopy it. It is time consuming but far better to have a copy in case the 1st one goes missing, as has been the case quite a few times.

It can be a minefield re benefits just now, so if you can obtain some professional help all the better. If by any chance something goes wrong and claim needs to go further, likes of CAB can assist you and accompany you to any possible appeals. Fingers crossed it does not come to that but I believe in covering every angle these days.

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Hi Lea,
S was on an indefinite award for DLA. He has autism, related learning difficulties and health needs. We received the transfer to PIP letter. I made the initial phone call back, filled out the form and sent off the evidence. He did have a face to face interview ( or rather, I was interviewed and he was present,) but the interview was at our house - I requested this on the form.

You should obtain a list of the categories which are grouped together and which the level of ability or otherwise is assessed.
The claimant has got to be honest about what they cannot do.