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Council Tax Exemption or Disregard - Page 2 - Carers UK Forum

Council Tax Exemption or Disregard

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"If a property is made up of occupying residents who are exempt (for example full time students) then there is no council tax payable".
"Paying the right level of council tax" leaflet on the .gov website.

What could be clearer???
Hello bowlingbun and sunnydisposition

Forgive any late replies from my end but we need the plumber here today.

I'd like to try to understand the facts regarding this situation more. But I really do think things could be made much simpler by using cleaner language. I still don't know why they seem to be confusing 'exemption' with 'reduction'.

David
This is all explained in the .gov document. It's called something like "The simple guide to..."
Try this link ...

https://www.which.co.uk/money/tax/counc ... eadline_10

Can I claim a council tax discount? Council tax bills assume that two adults occupy the property as their main home. If only one resident lives there, the bill is reduced by 25% - known as the single-person discount. Some people are not counted as a second resident for council tax bills, even if they live in the property. These are known as 'disregarded persons'. You may qualify for a 25% single-person discount if you share your home with people who are considered 'disregarded'. If everyone in the home is 'disregarded', you'll usually get a 50% discount (unless every resident is exempt, in which case there'll be no bill to pay). Disregarded people for council tax include:

Disregarded people for council tax include: an apprentice studying for a recognised qualification a young person (under 25) in approved training an 18 or 19-year-old in full-time education a student nurse people staying in hostels or night shelters carers (providing at least 35 hours' care a week) if they are not the main resident’s husband, wife or civil partner monks and nuns members of visiting forces a full-time student (attending university or college, or under the age of 20 and studying A levels or their equivalent) resident hospital patients people living in care homes people who are severely mentally impaired (this can include people with dementia) prisoners individuals with diplomatic privileges and immunities.

Read more: https://www.which.co.uk/money/tax/counc ... eadline_10 - Which?
From what I've just read bowlingbun is absolutely correct, in our domestic case at least.

According to "Paying the right level of Council Tax: a plain English guide to Council Tax", which was published 26 May 2019, in "5. Council Tax discounts" the final sentence of the section "'Disregarded' people"...

"If a property is solely made up of occupying residents who are exempt (for example, full-time students), then there is no Council Tax payable."

Mum and I satisfy the descriptions of a "severely mentally impaired" person and a person "caring for someone with a disability who is not a spouse, partner or child under 18" - both mentioned in the "'Disregarded' people" section.

As bowlingbun asked, what could be clearer?

But surely a council is a aware of a situation like this?
David4 wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:02 pm

But surely a council is a aware of a situation like this?
Almost certainly, but it's advantageous to them to feign ignorance.

Never trust anyone in those situations to do the best thing for you.

I was born cynical, but I'm also often correct.
You will discover that a lot of things that are shared on the forum represent failures of highly paid medical and social care staff to do their jobs properly!

Until recently, the dot gov site said that the CT exemption could be backdated, it still can be, but that sentence has disappeared. I wonder why?

Long ago, when Attendance Allowance was introduced, part of my work involved helping people to claim what they were entitled to.
One lovely man, a double amputee, former captain of a liner, was initially turned down as not needing enough help to qualify!!
His poor wife was in floods of tears, I called in to see her on my way home and promised to sort things out, which I did. She was a lovely lady, tall, slim, elegant, her hair always in a french pleat. Very brave about her husband's disability, but the rejection was the last straw for her.
I have used this as an example ever since.
Carers always have to be brave when supporting someone else, we do our best, but it is tough.
Why is it so difficult for us to get help? Without us and our carees, they wouldn't have a job!!!
In 3 years I've a seen specialist once regarding my uncontrolled epilepsy. He was arrogant and unhelpful. Due to the virus they cancelled my April appointment and rearranged it for an October phone appointment. That was cancelled and rearranged for 30 November. I had tonic clonic seizures in August and September and 3 partials this past week. I made a complaint once over a decade ago and I've often wondered if that has followed me around with regard to epilepsy. My former GP, himself an epileptic, inferred to me at the time that it might have been unwise.

David
With reference to our Council Tax situation though, should I simply wait for the libraries to open up again and do what bowlingbun recommends - print off a copy of that Government guide and present it to them? Would they give way just like that? That's about 7 years excess money they owe.

David
If you don't have a printer, just point them in the direction of the document. Load the details up on your device, then ring them and take them to the right section.The highest refund I've heard of is about £8,000! Please tell us how you get on. There may be others here who will benefit.