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Carers UK Forum • URGENT JEREMY VINE SHOW RADIO 2 ON NOW
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URGENT JEREMY VINE SHOW RADIO 2 ON NOW

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:44 pm
by jojo
URGENT JEREMY VINE SHOW RADIO 2 ON NOW

I HAVE THIS MORNING RAISED THE CARERS' ISSUE WITH THIS PROGRAMME. THIS COINCIDES WITH CARERS' WEEK. THIS WAS NOT PARTICULARLY INTENTIONAL AS I HAVE RUNG THE PROGRAMME BEFORE ABOUT CARERS BUT THEY HAVE NOT PICKED UP ON IT. HOWEVER, I HAPPEN TO HAVE SOME RESPITE AT THE MOMENT (LUCKY ME) AND TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO RING THEM.

IF SOME OF YOU ALSO CALL THIS PROGRAMME TODAY IF POSSIBLE IT WOULD CERTAINLY HELP TO RAISE AWARENESS OF OUR CONCERNS AS THIS IS A VERY POPULAR PROGRAMME WITH A HIGH PROFILE PRESENTER. I HAVE EMPHASISED THE POVERTY OF CARERS' ALLOWANCE AND THIS IS THE MAIN ISSUE I THINK CARERS' NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON.

PLEASE RING THIS PROGRAMME NOW OR ANY MORNING THIS WEEK FROM 12-2 P.M. THE CALL IS FREE AND THE NUMBER IS 0500 288 291.

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO CUK THEY WILL NEVER SHOUT LOUD ENOUGH WHILE THE GOV ARE PAYING THEIR WAGES. THEY COULD HAVE CONTACTED THIS PROGRAMME QUITE EASILY.

PLEASE RING AND ADD YOUR VOICE TO ASK IF THEY WILL COVER CARERS' ISSUES (ESPECIALLY THE ALLOWANCE ETC) THIS WEEK. PLEASE BE POLITE!

Re: URGENT JEREMY VINE SHOW RADIO 2 ON NOW

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:06 pm
by Scally

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO CUK THEY WILL NEVER SHOUT LOUD ENOUGH WHILE THE GOV ARE PAYING THEIR WAGES. THEY COULD HAVE CONTACTED THIS PROGRAMME QUITE EASILY.


All carers are of course most welcome to contact the media to put forward their own views and opinions]http://www.carersuk.org/Newsandcampaign ... 1244212361[/url]
Carers UK is a small organisation, and cannot possibly phone in to every single media programme about carers - that is for us as carers to do.

Re: URGENT JEREMY VINE SHOW RADIO 2 ON NOW

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:49 pm
by Alexr115


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WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO CUK THEY WILL NEVER SHOUT LOUD ENOUGH WHILE THE GOV ARE PAYING THEIR WAGES. THEY COULD HAVE CONTACTED THIS PROGRAMME QUITE EASILY.

PLEASE RING AND ADD YOUR VOICE TO ASK IF THEY WILL COVER CARERS' ISSUES (ESPECIALLY THE ALLOWANCE ETC) THIS WEEK. PLEASE BE POLITE!
One simple question. What do you expect from them?

CUK are undoubtedly the most active pressure groups for Carers rights who pilot so many campaigns for Carers issues and are highly respected and are well known for their dedication to carers.

All of the staff at CUK are hard working dedicated people and are always getting involved in Carers issues (Attending the CPP to help out and talk to carers, appearing on bbc news 24 & Working lunch, pointing local press in the direction of Carers to get interviews with)

Find me a charity which

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:20 pm
by Guest
Find me a charity which does not get at least some, in many cases most, of its funding from national or local government, the reality is that the general public do not give generously to charities and when they do it tends to be to "sexy" causes fronted by celebrities.

Unlike some charities I can think of CUK has on the whole not allowed government policy to detract them from the main message and they serve us well, carers are a diverse group and have diverse needs, some of which fit in with government policy if not the means by which government wants to achieve its policy outcomes.

All charities for some time have found it harder to get their stories into the mainstream press, sometimes a critic of CUK's press releases I actually think that they have done an exceptionally good job this year of getting our voices heard and in a way which has not enabled the media to compromise the message.

I too think that the suggestion that the staff of CUK have a pecuniary interest in not making our case loudly enough is offensive, they work for us not the government. There is also a belief in some quarters that the staff of charities such as CUK are well paid, this most certainly is not the case, the staff could earn a great deal more money working within the business or even the public sector, they have chosen to dedicate their skills to working for something which they believe in rather than for financial gain, I have enormous respect for people who put principle before personal interest.

Finally, policy is made by the trustees, if anyone thinks that they can do better than the current board of trustees who are all, like us, carers or former carers, they have only to stand for election.

It is fine to criticise, most of us do it at times, but criticism should be constructive and, most importantly, based on facts.

Hello I really dont think I

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:04 pm
by jojo
Hello

I really dont think I have got anything to aplogise for and was not being 'disrespectful' excalibur, et al,. I believe the CEO of CUK is paid £60,000 per year, but am open to correction. I would not want to rock the boat too much if I was getting that salary.............

Hello I really dont think I

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:50 pm
by Guest
Hello

I really dont think I have got anything to aplogise for and was not being 'disrespectful' excalibur, et al,. I believe the CEO of CUK is paid £60,000 per year, but am open to correction. I would not want to rock the boat too much if I was getting that salary.............
Sorry jojo, it is disrespectful to suggest that the CEO of Carers UK is motivated purely by her salary and puts the interests of the organisation you wrongly believe to be the source of that salary, i.e. the government, before the interests of the people she is employed to represent, the fact that you would not want to rock the boat does not mean that others share your values.

Jojo, what the CUK are

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:52 pm
by charles47
Jojo, what the CUK are paid to do a difficult job of work is up to the Board of Trustees, not the government.

This decision is not dependent on the government in any way. Anyone who doubts this can easily check the accounts as they are available on the CUK website - one of the few companies (let alone charities) that publishes its accounts so openly. And charities are subject to much stricter accounting rules than other companies.

As for what charity workers are paid, I won't comment (being one) other than to say if I wanted to earn more, I could always have become a social worker. But my conscience wouldn't let me.

Others have already made the point about respect and I will not belabour it. However, I would ask everyone to show a little restraint, and ask: what is most important in carers week? Getting the message across? Or having a go at the wrong people?

the fact that you would

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:13 pm
by jojo
the fact that you would not want to rock the boat does not mean that others share your values.

hey ....now who's being 'disrespectuful' !!


How do you presume to know what my values are? If I wasnt doing what I am doing now i,e, caring I could be earning loads of dosh, so dont be rude please!.........

I still maintain my views

read gems comments
I contacted my local radio station to see if they knew about National Carers week and surprise, surprise they knew nothing.

Not sure I really understand

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:27 pm
by Alexr115
Not sure I really understand how this thread has gone from a potentially interesting discussion to a 'dont disrespect me...'

Your concerns have been addressed but you dont seem to have followed the response.

You were critical of them not 'shouting' loud enough. Which made me ask what do you expect from CUK? However i've not recieved a response

your next post then goes to comment on about the CEO's wage.

It's all good having views but if you cannot substantiate or answer questions when given to you then how can you expect people to believe that you're not being disrespectul?

Regarding the awareness of Carers Week: check out here http://news.google.co.uk/news/more?um=1 ... fGJ0FMbWMM

40 odd news articles regarding carers. OK i dont know how many items have been on the radio but I think you're focussing too much on negatives.

the fact that you would

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:28 pm
by charles47
the fact that you would not want to rock the boat does not mean that others share your values.

hey ....now who's being 'disrespectuful' !!


How do you presume to know what my values are? If I wasnt doing what I am doing now i,e, caring I could be earning loads of dosh, so dont be rude please!.........

I still maintain my views

read gems comments
I contacted my local radio station to see if they knew about National Carers week and surprise, surprise they knew nothing.
I don't think Parsifal was being disrespectful so much as questioning the basis on which you maintain your views. I don't believe she was being rude but if you have concerns about Parsifal's post, by all means take it up with Matt or Gavin.

Actually, Gem said rather more than you reported. She said]I contacted my local radio station to see if they knew about National Carers week and surprise, surprise they knew nothing. They asked me if I would give them an interview and I agreed. [/quote]

If anyone had phoned my local radio station on Saturday they would have got the same blank expression. But I got a telephone call at work today at 8.15 wanting a 9.10am telephone interview about carers in respect of the new report (which I had only just received).

Our local press are running a story every day Monday to Saturday about carers and Carers Week.

Thing is, Carers UK is not a huge organisation. It's relatively small (actually smaller than at least one carers centre I know of - though not mine) and relies on carer members to help rally support. Our carers centre has 14 staff at present, but has about 60 volunteers too. We couldn't do it without them.