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Carers UK Forum • Loosing ability to walk and very poor judgement.
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Loosing ability to walk and very poor judgement.

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:25 pm
by Daffy192
A quick question. Very slowly my mother is loosing her ability to walk. She’s 74. All she’s wants to do really is lie down and it’s been like this for a decade. She’s even lost muscle in her waist which makes sitting up difficult for her sometimes. She’s had numerous falls.
I can envisage that perhaps a year down the line at time where she just can’t stand. Can an elderly person be cared for at home with no mobility? Let’s say for several years or would the demands just be too much for one person? I ask because if my mother goes into care I’m likely to be homeless. I’m in my early 50s. I’ve been her carer for 22 years.

Re: Loosing ability to walk and very poor judgement.

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:19 pm
by leah_1902
Maybe she might like to join a falls prevention class? What does the specialist say? It is time to either look at care homes or arrange for a needs assessment so you can start paying for carers to help her stand up properly. You might find this guide produced by the NHS on needs assessments and care services helpful to read.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/social-ca ... ort-guide/

Examples of things carers can assist with:

Taking/collecting medication
Accessing the community
Finding employment
Ironing/cleaning
Cooking
Learning new skills
Using the toilet
Picking up things
Shopping

I hope I have given you some ideas

What to expect from a care agency courtesy of the CQC- https://www.cqc.org.uk/help-advice/what ... are-agency.

ability to walk and very poor judgement.

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 5:30 pm
by Karen Dee
Daffy - your post does sound worrying.
I can answer your question concerning the amount of care needed if your mum becomes bedridden. Sorry if this upsets you - there is no way that one person could look after someone who is bed ridden. If this were to happen then your mum would need round the clock care. There would need to be a minimum of 3 carers to provide 24 hour care for mum. If this were to happen your mum would need personal care
Has mum beeen depressed in the past? It sounds like your mum has been lacking in energy for a very long time - why is this? Has she had lots of tests to find out the underlying problem? Does she eat a healthy diet? Has mum seen a physiopherapist?

Re: Loosing ability to walk and very poor judgement.

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:18 pm
by sunnydisposition

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Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:23 pm
by bowlingbun
Has the doctor referred mum to a specialist, for a diagnosis or scan?

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Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:57 pm
by leah_1902
Make a list of symptoms that concern you. Jot down questions to ask too on a piece of paper. Take a list of medications with you to the appointment. Has she been referred to a doctor or not? Push for a referral pronto as well.

Re: Loosing ability to walk and very poor judgement.

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:41 am
by Daffy192
Thank you for all your replies.
Mum has not been right for a long time. She has mental health problems, which means she is on strong sedative medication. She also on an anti-depressant, but they can't elevate her mood too much as she gets extreme mood changes.
I'm grateful for links and also the honest answer re how many carers it would take to look after mum if she became completely immobile. She has seen a physiotherapist in the past, but her even though she tries to make an effort to move around the house it just is not enough. She's lost substantial muscle around her waist and legs, as she has just prefers to slump in her chair or lie down.
Mum had a fall yesterday. She assured me she was fine but, as today has progressed I realized that she just was not right. She seemed rather vacant. Zero concentration. Cold hands, chesty, heavy breathing. I ended up taking her blood pressure, which I never normally do. It was 66/44, pulse 109 when sitting.
Her low blood pressure made me quickly seek GP advice and an ambulance was called. The hospital are running tests.
(She did have some hospital tests earlier in the year regarding mini stroke and a fall, nothing remarkable came up.)

There has been quite a decline this year. She is due to see a geriatric specialist. A letter came through the post with no warning from any GP. I suspect they'll reduce her mediation if they can, but I think age and her lack of activity is catching up with her.
She's not an easy person to care for, as she just does not cooperate. For example, whilst waiting for the ambulance, instead of sitting comfortably, she decided to get up to put on her shoes for when they arrived. As a result, because she can't hardly walk she ended on the floor again! She can't get up once down.
We had a similar event earlier in the year and nothing really changed as a result. I'll have to push for falls prevention help, as she just hasn't got clue. I suspect there are memory problems creeping in too.
Thank you for listening. I realize this has all rather evolved from my first question this morning.

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Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:10 am
by bowlingbun
Don't apologise for coming back to us, that's what we are here for.
Reading your last post it appears that you are picking mum up after she falls.
Please don't do this, that is what ambulance staff are trained to do, don't end up an invalid with a bad back.
If you call the ambulance, it is logged, and I believe they contact the GP. In this way, it may get investigations done quicker.

Re: Loosing ability to walk and very poor judgement.

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:24 am
by leah_1902
Daffy192 wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:41 am
Thank you for all your replies.
Mum has not been right for a long time. She has mental health problems, which means she is on strong sedative medication. She also on an anti-depressant, but they can't elevate her mood too much as she gets extreme mood changes.
I'm grateful for links and also the honest answer re how many carers it would take to look after mum if she became completely immobile. She has seen a physiotherapist in the past, but her even though she tries to make an effort to move around the house it just is not enough. She's lost substantial muscle around her waist and legs, as she has just prefers to slump in her chair or lie down.
Mum had a fall yesterday. She assured me she was fine but, as today has progressed I realized that she just was not right. She seemed rather vacant. Zero concentration. Cold hands, chesty, heavy breathing. I ended up taking her blood pressure, which I never normally do. It was 66/44, pulse 109 when sitting.
Her low blood pressure made me quickly seek GP advice and an ambulance was called. The hospital are running tests.
(She did have some hospital tests earlier in the year regarding mini stroke and a fall, nothing remarkable came up.)

There has been quite a decline this year. She is due to see a geriatric specialist. A letter came through the post with no warning from any GP. I suspect they'll reduce her mediation if they can, but I think age and her lack of activity is catching up with her.
She's not an easy person to care for, as she just does not cooperate. For example, whilst waiting for the ambulance, instead of sitting comfortably, she decided to get up to put on her shoes for when they arrived. As a result, because she can't hardly walk she ended on the floor again! She can't get up once down.
We had a similar event earlier in the year and nothing really changed as a result. I'll have to push for falls prevention help, as she just hasn't got clue. I suspect there are memory problems creeping in too.
Thank you for listening. I realize this has all rather evolved from my first question this morning.
Does she have a wheelchair or not?

Re: Loosing ability to walk and very poor judgement.

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:00 pm
by Daffy192
bowlingbun wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:10 am
Don't apologise for coming back to us, that's what we are here for.
Reading your last post it appears that you are picking mum up after she falls.
Please don't do this, that is what ambulance staff are trained to do, don't end up an invalid with a bad back.
If you call the ambulance, it is logged, and I believe they contact the GP. In this way, it may get investigations done quicker.
The problem is when she's down on the floor she gets abusive. Say things like "you don't love you want to get rid of me", if I can't get her up. I've explained to her that she's nearly my body weight.. It can be so bad I've gone into another room for a couple of minutes just to give myself a break. I will in future call and ambulance.
She's got pneumonia and the hospital will apparently give her physical rehab, as some point. I feel like things will improve once she has cleared the pneumonia.
I've got one concern. She picked up my cold and I've got a chest infection too. I just hoping, as an asthmatic that mine does not get serious as well.