incontinece pads

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my son needs incontinece pads all the time normally at day centre he is changed whilst lying down on a change table because he is unstable stood up,the day centresay now because of cuts to the service he will need to be changed whilst stood up,my problem is if he falls he will hurt himself.is there anyone who could advise me on this as its only a matter of time before he gets hurt
Hello and welcome,

This is a holding reply until others are able to see your message who might have the time to give a more complete response.

I just wanted to assure you people are reading your post.

If your son is unable to safely weight bear to be padded in a standing position, then the day center will need to use a mechanical hoist (which they should already have) to transfer him via sling to the table safely, where they can use a "roll" technique to change the soiled pad.

I am willing to wager this information was given to you verbally, because nobody in their right mind would dare suggest what they are proposing to do in writing. They can't put your son in danger like that for any reason let alone financial purposes.

Curious does your son use a wheelchair? It is a very bad situation, but this would make it far worse (for them)

Others will see this,

Best wishes
I wonder if the day centre is planning on cutting the number of carers so they wouldnt have two carers required if they use a change table, whereas only one carer is needed in stand up position? Craxy, I know but still a possibility!
Rose,

Maybe but its not that straight forward.

If the person is risk assessed to needing to be handled a specific way due to their disability/health then thats how they are to be handled, you can't just go back on it because its not convenient.

Safeguarding team would have a field day.. because if they are trying to do this, then it leaves much to the imagination what they are doing which we don't hear about.
my son can barley weight bare but has no stability so could fall over he is in a wheelchair im told by the centre they only have 1 table to change on and have since taken 35 disabled persons from another day centre so its first come or who shouts the loudest. these centres are supposed to care for the needy not neglect them
Honey Badger, I agree with what you've said. It could be time to put these concerns in writing so the day centre is forewarned that they would be breaching the careplan if they attempted to change pads whilst caree was standing.
I've never heard anything so silly! If they have taken on so many new clients then they are getting a lot more money on a daily basis. Therefore they need to get on and spend some on proper changing facilities!! I think you need to write and make a formal complain to Social Services about your son being put at risk/in danger. Let them sort it out.
stuart_1509 wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:08 pm
my son can barley weight bare but has no stability so could fall over he is in a wheelchair im told by the centre they only have 1 table to change on and have since taken 35 disabled persons from another day centre so its first come or who shouts the loudest. these centres are supposed to care for the needy not neglect them
I'm afraid you will need to make a bit of noise and flag this up with social services, safeguarding and cqc.

There are so many things going wrong with this so called day centre in your first couple posts I don't even want to think about how dire the conditions must be for service users (who often won't have wonderful family members such as yourself to support/speak for them which is why we are duty bound to flag these things up when we see them go on)

You are spot on it is absolutely disgusting and dehumanizing way to treat some of the most vulnerable persons out there who just want to get out for a few hours and participate in some activities/socialise/have a good time. And obviously it does your own peace of mind no good at all.

Just putting this out there if you have access to things like body maps and observations from day centre it would be worth monitoring your son for injuries/marks etc while this situation unfolds because they can tell a story in themselves and honestly it is just good house keeping to ensure they are actually filling them in properly when he attends

Also you probably know this already but any unexplained marks/injuries always take a timestamped picture.

If they are this negligent with personal care then I am very concerned with other areas of the service.

Best wishes