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Gender of Carer

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I’m concerned.
It’s ok in hospital where there are plenty of people about to keep an eye on your mum (although that’s debatable) but at home it’s a different matter! If the male carer is carrying out personal care this is not acceptable in my eyes even if it’s with a female carer present.
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Would you feel better if the male carer were gay, Entity?
Or less comfortable if the female carers were gay?
What exactly is the gender problem?
Lets assume this is not about sex; it's about embarassment, isnt it?
But it's also about equal treatment under the law. We can hardly support having female astronauts, engineers and soldiers, but deny men the right to be carers, can we?

What next: the right to reject a carer because they are black, or Jewish? Where does one draw the line?
Excalibur
Your quite right to bring up the point about gender that’s not a problem at all what is the problem here is the protection of the individual under the Mental Health Act 2005.



I have been a member of the Alzheimer’s society so am well read on what is ethical and dignity of care for people with dementia. I will come back to answer the questions you have presented in the morning but for now i would like to draw your attention to the following.
Mental Impairment
"Means a state of arrested or incomplete development of mind (not amounting to severe mental impairment) which includes significant impairment of intelligence and social functioning and is associated with abnormally aggressive or seriously irresponsible conduct".
Severe Mental Impairment
"Means a state of arrested or incomplete development of mind which includes severe impairment of intelligence and social functioning and is associated with abnormally aggressive or seriously irresponsible conduct".
The distinction between "severe mental impairment" and "mental impairment" is one of degree. The assessment of the level of impairment is a matter for clinical judgement.

So ask the professionals
Ok Entity, I see your point but we're not talking about someone with dementia here but someone with capacity who is physically in need of care, so the capacity issue doesn't really apply.

However, your main point seems to be less to do with the gender of the care worker so much as whether any one worker should be allowed to work alone with someone who is vulnerable?
I still cant see what all the fuss is about. The man is a professional care worker, properly vetted just as Nilla's Male Midwife was. Everyone involved is really happy with this chap, just go on your own gut instinct, the same as you would letting anyone come into your house to work.
Why would you need to ask 'the professionals' about it. What about that case here in the Plymouth nursery school. She was a woman, highly respected and was abusing the children. It wouldn't have been much good asking the professionals about her would it?
I think it's just the media hype around these isolated cases, that puts people in a state of hysteria, making problems where there aren't any.

I for one would be very happy to leave this man in charge of my wife, coming with such a high recommendation from Rachel.

Pete
Excalibur
My concern is about the protection of a vulnerable individual not gender! A person with dementia requires specialist nursing care and carers should be trained in providing dementia care because of behavioural problems associated with the progression of this illness.
‘Some people with dementia’ can develop sexual inhibition’ and my thoughts were more to do with protection of the carers.
Please read this-
http://apt.rcpsych.org/cgi/content/full/11/6/424


Charles
“Ok Entity, I see your point but we're not talking about someone with dementia here but someone with capacity who is physically in need of care, so the capacity issue doesn't really apply.

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Pete the Paint

It wasn’t my intention to cause a fuss- I just wanted to ‘raise awareness’ about proper care standards for people with dementia and carers because of the dilemma people like Rachel face in trying to find the best care...
OK Entity, points taken.

Thats the problem with the written word, you cant tell the context in how someone is trying to put things over sometimes.

I hope I didn't cause you any offence. It certainly wasn't my intention to do so.

My kindest regards,

Pete
..........as has been said, 'he' comes with a police check and references; it's all anyone doing a job will have. Sometimes we really do just have to do our best to check 'him' out and then just trust.
I'm afraid it's as simple as that.
Here, Rachel's Mum likes him, and is comfy with him - she may lose the chance of having him work for her Mum just because of worries. I understand about vulnerable people (my gawd, I should do!) .....it does no good to put more worry into Rachel's head when she has got a good worker!
you said your mum is happy with the carer?

then wots the issue?

its ok as a woman to go in and wash an old mans willy with out another man there (yes ive done it and it wasnt my finest five mins !)

at care watch u have to have a CRB and a POVA b4 u can even go in to some ones house.

Its just a case with ALL paid carers that family should monitor wots happening and pay attention, if the paid carer is male or female.
My Rob can have up to 18 different care workers (mostly female) in a week coming in to do intimate personal care and then a different lot the next week.

Its something you have to put up with if you want the help. The worst is when it is young girls who were in his class in primary school which he finds really embarassing. Or if they have the low cut tops on and the bare midriffs and are leaning over him and his body has the usual reaction of a 24 year old red blooded male. Image

Eun