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Family / Kinship Carers : Juggle Work With Caring ? 110,000 Paid Care Workers Short & More LA Cutbacks Due ! - Page 2 - Carers UK Forum

Family / Kinship Carers : Juggle Work With Caring ? 110,000 Paid Care Workers Short & More LA Cutbacks Due !

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BB echoing my previous postings ... the Government have a whole army already in servitude to the System , and to their carees.

That saving of £ 132 BILLION again ... the cost for NOT treating family carers like ordinary workers ... part of that mirrors the " Fairer for Carers " campaign started by CUK ... in essence , GIVING US BACK PART OF WHAT WE ARE ALREADY OWED ( The labour put into caring for our carees balanced against the cost of a third party ... NHS / LAs ... doing the same. )

Green Rizla Paper again ... WHAT will be the logical deduction as to " The Way Forward " as decreed by the Government ?

Austerity ... a complete reversal ?

The main thread for that Paper ... you have been warned ... repeatedly !

https://www.carersuk.org/forum/news-and ... -120-28906

Once it's out , kiss goodbye to anything else for a least a decade ... as with the last one in 2009.

History ... short of a " Spartacus " , we have NO say in anything , and haven't had for decades !

Perhaps a change for Carers UK to digest , and replace on their own site ?

" Caring IS a choice " ... new version ... " Caring ... A choice ? "

New version will reflect REALITY ... not a textbook version.
A very interest article in the Guardian which dovetails into this thread ... by pondering on the knock on effects on us :

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... t-inaction

The social care system is collapsing. So why the government inaction ?

A Royal College of Care Workers would be a good first step in recognising their importance to society.

Future history students will enjoy speculating about the Brexit deal (or no deal) and what might have happened if this historic agreement had concluded differently. However, these studies are unlikely to consider the impact of the time and energy lost to discussions and discord on Brexit over the past two years.

If they did, they would see the societal and economic impact of our failure to achieve progress in key policy areas, in particular social care reform – one of the most pressing issues of our time. The government promised a social care green paper some months ago. Despite a mention of it yesterday by the health secretary, Matt Hancock, there is no set date for it to be published. It has slipped off the domestic agenda as Brexit and political party in-fighting dominate. Even during party conference season, social care has been little more than an afterthought.

And yet the social care system is collapsing around us. The majority of the public wish to live, to be cared for and to die in their own homes. The simple truth is that at present, this is not possible.

Since the national minimum wage was raised, many local authorities have been unable to afford the hourly fees charged by home care agencies. As a result, some care providers are leaving public provision. Even the additional £2bn provided last year by the chancellor and the provision of an extra £240m yesterday is not enough to save the system from disaster.

At the same time, there is a growing shortage of carers in a profession already devastated by high levels of attrition. It’s predicted that by 2025, the care worker deficit will have grown to more than 600,000. To add to this perfect storm are findings such as those of the study published this week that suggested a third of men and half of women aged 45 will go on to have dementia, Parkinson’s or a stroke.

We need to see the long-awaited green paper – but more importantly, it must contain bold solutions that match the scale of the problem we face as a society. I’m CEO of SuperCarers, an online platform that helps families find the best care for the people they love. Our services help to introduce people to carers, and we’re not motivated simply by commercial objectives – we believe that there is a desperate need for reform to a system that is not fit for purpose.

There are several steps we would like to see the government take. First, we need to see carers treated with the respect they deserve. For too long, carers have been treated as an unskilled workforce. They are among the most dedicated, principled and passionate public servants we have. I believe we should treat care workers as we treat some teachers, and as we formerly treated nurses – with tax-free bursaries to train.

Second, care needs greater levels of funding. Cross-party resolve is needed to increase national insurance, with the specific purpose of paying for elderly care. This increase could go to cash-strapped local councils, raising the minimum threshold for personally funded care.

We need workplace-based support to reflect society’s changing demographics. Childcare vouchers were introduced in the 1980s to support working parents – the reality in the 2010s is that more and more adults are providing their own parents’ care, financially or personally. We want to see the introduction of elderly care vouchers, funded through a pre-tax salary sacrifice. Without adequate assistance, we will see more and more people – in the main, women – leaving the workforce to be unpaid carers.

Finally, at SuperCarers we are advocating for a Royal College of Care Workers. Royal colleges exist for a range of professions, from nurses to veterinarians. Yet there is none to protect care workers – or to reflect the service they provide in the interests of the public. Currently, poorly paid and poorly treated care workers are leaving the profession in droves. Many care workers come from overseas, and we don’t yet know what impact post-Brexit immigration policies will have on the ability of care workers to secure visas and work in the UK.

We need swift and coherent action to support care workers, and to reflect the vital importance of care work to today’s society. A Royal College of Care Workers would be a good start.

Written by someone on the side of paid care workers but ... echoes with some readers as they have such people coming in to provide additional support.

Makes a lot of sense on several fronts.

Trouble is ... only part of the whole picture.

White paper to set out tough UK immigration regime post-Brexit.

Minimum salary threshold of £30k-a-year will also apply to migrants from the EU27.

Whitehall sources said final drafts of key passages of the document were still passing between departments on Tuesday night; but it would make clear the government is not prepared to offer EU migrants preferential access to Britain’s labour market.

Instead, the £30,000-a-year minimum salary threshold that is already imposed on non-EU workers will also apply to migrants from the EU27, although there may be further consultation about how the system will operate.

The chancellor, Philip Hammond, the business secretary, Greg Clark, and Javid, had expressed concern in private about the impact of the threshold. They were anxious that a sudden, dramatic reduction in the availability of EU migrants in key sectors would threaten the economy.

One cabinet minister said they believed the majority of their colleagues would favour a lower floor, of £21,000. But the prime minister, a longstanding advocate of reducing immigration, stood firm

Okay ... square that in the context of this thread ... future shortages in the social care sector now almost guaranteed ?

If so , juggling work with caring when the support needed simply isn't there ?

Makes a total mockery of Government policy when applied to CarerLand !!!


Not only social care , OUR NHS also has the same concerns :

Richard Murray : " Relax migration rules to solve NHS workforce crisis. "

The health service’s long-term plan won’t work if brave staffing decisions aren’t made, says incoming head of the King’s Fund

In his view the two biggest health policy failures are successive governments “kicking the can down the road” on funding social care and the abysmal lack of workforce planning that has left the NHS with 103,000 vacancies. Only the government can fix both, and it needs to take bold, determined and imaginative action on both, he says: “The NHS can only do so much itself.”
Brexit : Don't block care workers with 'low-skilled' migration threshold, Age UK tells ministers.

Charity urges Sajid Javid not to make " Bad situation even worse. "

Care workers from the EU should not be stopped from coming to Britain through being categorised as “low-skilled” because it would make a “bad situation even worse”, a leading charity has warned.

Age UK urged home secretary Sajid Javid to exempt care workers from proposed rules limiting migration and access to the UK labour market after Brexit. The government is consulting on recommendations by its migration advisory committee that a £30,000 salary cap be imposed for lower-skilled workers.

The charity said the social care workforce was already struggling and any further reduction would worsen the current plight of the industry.

Age UK argued care workers are low-paid, rather than low-skilled, and that Britain is in “no position” to do without them.

Caroline Abrahams, the director of the charity, said the social care sector was already losing staff and could not afford to lose more.

" Don't step on that mine , SJ ... sir ! "

" Nonsense , I know what I'm doing ! "


Don't we all just love our politicians ?

And ... wheel out the next comedian to play ... " The Pitfalls of Ignoring the Bleeding Obvious ! "

( Amber Rudd ... restarting the UC rollout ... WITHOUT a whole new makeover , perhaps ?

Why tinker with a clapped out car when anyone can see that it would not pass it's MOT in a month of 29th. of Februarys ?

Ah ... Mr. Matt Hancock ... step right this way ... Green Paper on Social Care ... our audience's number one choice ! )



Research : More than 600 people quit work to look after older and disabled relatives every day
05 February 2019

More than 600 people quit work to look after older and disabled relatives every day

1 in 7 of the UK workforce caring for a loved one.

6 million have quit their job to care.

Carers UK calls for better employment rights including five to 10 days paid care leave.

New research by Carers UK reveals that 2.6 million have quit their job to care for a loved one who is older, disabled or seriously ill, with nearly half a million (468,000) leaving their job in the last two years alone - more than 600 people a day.

This is a 12 per cent increase since Carers UK and YouGov polled the public in 2013.

The findings also show that more people are caring than previously thought, with almost 5 million workers now juggling their paid job with caring – a dramatic rise compared with Census 2011 figures of 3 million.

The research emphasises the need for UK employers to support the rapidly increasing number of staff with caring responsibilities to stay in the workforce.

Previous research shows those aged 45-64 are most likely to have a caring responsibility, providing a strong driver for employers to support and retain some of their most skilled and experienced employees.

It comes as Employers for Carers, a group of more than 115 employers committed to supporting carers in the workplace and supported by Carers UK, marks its 10th anniversary as a formal forum and launches Carer Confident, the first UK-wide employer benchmarking scheme of its kind.

The pioneering scheme recognises and accredits UK employers who have built carer friendly and inclusive workplaces.

Helen Walker, Chief Executive of Carers UK, said:

“Better workplace support for people juggling paid work with caring for a loved one is becoming an increasingly important issue, with a growing need for employers to improve flexibility and, with an ageing population, support people to keep working for longer, contributing to better productivity.

“With 15% of the population now working and caring, there is a real social and economic imperative for UK businesses to adopt carer friendly workplaces. Carers UK is urging the Government to improve rights for people juggling work and care by introducing a new right of five to 10 days of paid care leave.

“Adequate care and support services are also a key condition for many people’s employment so it’s more important than ever that the Government’s forthcoming social care proposals deliver the high quality and affordable care services we need now and in the future.”

Asked what support from their employer would be most important if combining their job with unpaid care for a loved one, 89 per cent of UK adults said a supportive line manager/employer, 88 per cent said the option to work flexibly, and 80 per cent said five to 10 days paid care leave.

Asked what supportive employment policies are currently available for carers in their workplace, 38 per cent of UK employees said their employer had flexible working but only 12 per cent said they had additional paid care leave. A third (33 per cent) of people currently juggling work and care said that there were no policies listed to support carers. This suggests that for many carers, the lack of support in the workplace is a difficult reality.

7 per cent of people said unpaid caring had negatively impacted on their paid work, down from 10 per cent in 2013, indicating that measures by employers to support carers in the workplace have been working well for some.

Centrica, the parent company of British Gas, which has been working with Employers for Carers since its inception, has seen the business benefits of introducing flexible working and care leave for its staff as they have retained employees and reduced recruitment costs.

Simi Dubb, Director of Diversity and Inclusion at Centrica :

“We are working hard to retain a diverse and skilled workforce through our carers policies which includes paid carers leave and flexible working from day one of becoming a carer. It’s the right thing to do and we want to support our employees and share best practices with other businesses. We are also working with Carers UK to urge the Government to introduce more support for carers such as mandatory paid carers leave.”

The launch of Carer Confident and the 10th anniversary of Employers for Carers was marked by an event at which the Minister of State for Care, Caroline Dinenage, spoke.




Regardless of whether or not the employers bend to accomodate the caring needs of some of their employess , the maths and logistics just DO NOT ADD UP.

Last budget ... even that predicted TAPER ... zilch.


( Limit raised to £ 250 ... eligibility criteria for CA relaxed ... two that would have an immediate impact !!!

CUK's press release makes NO mention of either ... a " Regretable " omission ... or deliberate one ??? )



( Perhaps even a pair of wellies , the mire's very deep in many places ! )

Thanks for bringing this up to the top of the postings list Chris.
Your welcome !

More for CUK's benefit ( Again ? ) than ours ?

Time for the dog to wag it's own tail ... again ?

Top of the charts ?

Several more bubbling under ... pop pickers ?

Bets on what's to be the new No. ! ?

All quiet on the DWP Purge front ... too quiet ?
Following the theme of this thread ... and CUK's press release.

At last , the Guardian have picked this up ... and , with a feminist twist :

Who’s going to care about the women being forced out of work ?

As hundreds of carers quit the workforce every day, leaving families at breaking point, it’s time to fix the safety net.

What would drive thousands of people a year out of jobs they love, or need, with no certainty about whether they will ever be able to come back?

If you have parents of a certain age, you might already have guessed the answer.

About 600 people a day are giving up their jobs to look after elderly or sick relatives, the charity Carers UK estimates, a hidden exodus from working life that we don’t discuss nearly enough. Young women are bombarded practically from the cradle with conflicting advice about how to “have it all” as working mothers, yet hear almost nothing about coping as working daughters in an age of unravelling safety nets. (And yes, about 42% of carers are male * , which means many thousands of men are also toiling unpaid round the clock; but women are statistically more likely to care for parents and men for spouses, meaning men are more likely to care in retirement and women when they are still young enough to be working).

( * Thank you , nice to know we exist !!! )

Here is the grim reality behind all that sentimental stuff from Jeremy Hunt, when he was health secretary, about how families should embrace their elders as Asian families do. People who could have managed in their own homes for a little longer with decent help aren’t coping, when all they get is brief daily visits from care workers so rushed off their feet that they barely have time to shove a clingfilmed meal into the fridge for later.

Good childcare is still expensive and hard to find, but an entire infrastructure of nursery places and tax credits has at least grown up over the last 20 years to help. Social care for both adults and children has gone in the other direction, with day centres closing, home help services pared to the bone and care homes struggling to stay afloat.

It’s older people themselves who are bearing the brunt of threadbare social care, obviously, and none more so than the increasing number of people ageing without children. The implicit assumption that families will pick up the pieces when budgets are cut ignores the fact that not everyone has a family, and that some families are infinitely more dysfunctional than others.

But the collapse of social care has serious implications for the next generation, too. Most of us instinctively want to repay the love our parents once gave us, and to be able to spend time with loved ones at the end is a privilege. The blunt truth, however, is that caring can be a lonely, stressful and impoverishing business, especially if you have to give up or cut back on your livelihood to do it. And unlike career breaks for motherhood, caring breaks are open-ended, with no certainty about how long people might be gone – which makes it harder to pick up careers again further down the line.

Wealthier families can at least throw money at the problem, paying for help or building granny annexes in the garden. But those options aren’t open to everyone and so older people are left feeling guilty about asking for help even when they clearly need it, while offspring feel wracked with guilt for not offering.

Meanwhile, the sort of meaningful social care reform that might ease this dilemma all round is endlessly kicked into the long grass by politicians scared of the backlash to almost any solution proposed, from tax rises to making people sell their homes to fund it. And Brexit may only make things harder, if it stops EU nationals coming to work in the NHS and social care, as a Department of Health paper last summer pointed out.

Carers UK is sensibly focusing on asking employers to be flexible, allowing people to stay in work for longer while doing the right thing by their families. Working from home, going part-time or being able to take a few days’ leave at short notice can all help.

But this problem can’t be solved by individual families and sympathetic bosses alone and it’s high time the government faced up to its responsibilities, too. There are only so many emergency dashes up the motorway anyone can wangle, when they are also needed somewhere else; only so far families can be stretched before they snap.

A little more for CUK to chew over ???

A daily subscription for the Guardian perhaps ?

If you can't afford that ... why not our own " The Daily Growl " ... new Street name for the NEWS section.

If you haven't growled much before , try a couple of threads.

Thereafter , growling will come naturally ... easier than smiling ... smiling , in CarerLand ???
That Earnings Limit.

If I can locate it's history ... say limit in 1981 ( As I did for the " Fairer for Carers " policy ) ... I'll post the result.

I have a gut feeling that said limit has NOT increased with inflation ... how much will be the difference ?

In essence , another falsehood now common in most Government propaganda.

Perhaps CUK have been keeping track of the monetary / percentages changes as part of their brief to watch
over our interests over the years ?

On second thoughts ... I'll start trawling !

Nope ... I was wrong !

First phone call of the year ( And last ! ) ... CA Unit ... best they could offer ... 1991 ... and £ 30 per week.

Equivalent of £ 65 odd per week in the tax year 2018 -2019.

Still , nice to have checked ?

And ... at least I asked the question ????

On YOUR behalf !