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Hello
I am a non smoking carer and wondered what my rights were to issue cigarettes out to the residents. In the care plan it does state we have to hand them out and light them. Can I refuse to handle cigarettes altogether, is it in my rights as a non smoker.
Thanks
This is a debate that the Management Team at our local Hospice have just completed. It was unanimously decided that even though some of the patients were dying of smoking-related illnesses, it would be unneccessarily cruel at this stage of their lives to prevent them smoking. A very caring and wise decision by some very good and kind people. I assume that you had seen a Care Plan before you started your employment - it was at that stage you should have raised your strong objections. Handling cigarettes will not harm you and unless you actually have to put a cigarette into your mouth to light it for a resident, then I think all your Rights have been met Image
I'd suggest that as a care worker you need to contact ACAS for advice. They have a helpline and are easily found in the phone book. ACAS is fully up to date in employment law, and I used to use them a lot when I worked in a Jobcentre many years ago.

As a family carer you do not have to touch a cigarette as your family member will be aware of your choices.
This is a debate that the Management Team at our local Hospice have just completed. It was unanimously decided that even though some of the patients were dying of smoking-related illnesses, it would be unneccessarily cruel at this stage of their lives to prevent them smoking. A very caring and wise decision by some very good and kind people. I assume that you had seen a Care Plan before you started your employment - it was at that stage you should have raised your strong objections. Handling cigarettes will not harm you and unless you actually have to put a cigarette into your mouth to light it for a resident, then I think all your Rights have been met Image
I hate tobacco and going into buildings where there are loads of smokers stood outside I find quite horrid. Lighting up for a client would perhaps be in a 'designated smoking area' and that would be horrid for me also. I agree it would be cruel to stop old people from smoking and feel the ACAS route may be the best one. I hope a solution which is satisfactory to all can be found.
I think Arbitration and Conciliation can only take place after all the normal channels have been pursued and failed. Bluey4 hasn't said that he/she has actually taken up the matter through the normal management channels.
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Just to clarify that the term 'carer' applies to relatives and friends prviding unpaid care as opposed to care workers. Carers recently replied to a Carers UK survey on their top priorities for change to improve carers' lives. Number one was recognition - they want society to understand their valuable contribution to society; they want professionals to treat them as partners in provision of care; they want the term 'carer' to be understood by society which in turn would mean that many of the people who currently miss out on over£740 million of benefits and services see themselves as carers and get what they are entitled to.
Thank you for that Gavin, although it doesn't seem to further the discussion on 'cigarettes' on here. I assume that, quite rightly, you are pointing out to those who are in paid employment as Carers that they need to look elsewhere. Would it be possible to filter these people out at the stage where they apply to become a member of this Board? A type of questionnaire might do the job - with those employed in the Care Industry being pointed in the right direction? I think I might be seen as being a busybody here. Sorry it it looks like that.
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difficult one as so many care workers are carers themselves. Also they may have interesting comments about support for carers. Our rules state no requests for research and consultations or commercial. We get few postsfrom people posting as staff.

i've realised i'm breaking the rules by going off topic!!
Back on topic...................Cigarettes are a tube of vegetable matter, harmless until lit. Where is the conflict in touching vegetable matter for someone who has trouble doing it for themselves?
Yes, I know it is a filthy habit, but for some it is one of the few things left they can still do. And if you are a carer, do you deny your caree one of the few pleasures they have left?
I don't.
I think Arbitration and Conciliation can only take place after all the normal channels have been pursued and failed. Bluey4 hasn't said that he/she has actually taken up the matter through the normal management channels.
ACAS don't just arbitrate and provide conciliation services - they also provide information and advice about legal rights in employment.
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