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Carers UK Forum • A government slave - Page 2
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Re: A government slave

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:29 pm
by jenny lucas
Given that my MIL in a dementia care home is paying (self-paying) £100 a DAY (and that excludes the CHC nursing care element, which is another £100 plus a week!), even if the LA (were she not self-paying) only paid, say, 80% of the self-pay fee (What IS the percentage, does anyone know, by which the LA 'underpays' the care homes and self-payers 'overpay'??), or even if it were only 50%, that would STILL mean that a family carer on, say, the same 'rate' would be making £50 A DAY to keep their caree out of a residential care home!

That's £350 a week - FAR more 'liveable on', and FAR more likely to induce a family member to keep their caree at home!

There really should be a pilot scheme set up, say for a year, just to see what impact it has on reducing the number of people 'put into a care home' and paid for by the council......AND saving the council some money as well!

It's a win win all round - the LA wins, the carer wins and the caree wins by not having to leave their own home!

Re: A government slave

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:31 pm
by Eun
And my carers credit is stopped because they have stopped my carers allowace for the past nine and a half months even though we are still at the hospital, still caring for 7 hours a day every day withnot a single break! Government slave is right enough!

Eun

Re: A government slave

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:35 pm
by Chris From The Gulag
Possibly time for this idea to pass over to our supporting organisations to earn their crust ???

After all , the NHS / Social Care issue is almost daily news and , any contribution to the debate which is , as Jenny quite rightly pointed out , a " Win / win " solution , MUST be worthy of consideration at the highest level ?

A quick phone call to Barbara Keeley or Dr. Ian Poulter would do the initial trick ?

Want 10p for the phone call .... assuming , of course , neither mp only accepts calls on a premium rate number ?

Re: A government slave

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:57 pm
by Chris From The Gulag
Nice to see that the bot's are working well !

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Re: A government slave

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:03 pm
by Henrietta
Thank you for clarrifying- another good reason for keeping a part time job ticking over if possible, although not earning enough to pay National Insurance at least I can pick up and do more hours when I have to one day while I am considering future employment.

Re: A government slave

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:04 pm
by Henrietta
Thank you for clarrifying- another good reason for keeping a part time job ticking over if possible, although not earning enough to pay National Insurance at least I can pick up and do more hours when I have to one day while I am considering future employment.

That is a frightful position to leave full time carers in. What twat comes up with these rules?

Re: A government slave

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:07 pm
by Chris From The Gulag
For some readers of this thread , after caring , any employment under 60 hours or so per week may be considered part-time ?

The 48 hour working week still remains in force under EEC Law , and yet , carers are naturally excluded from such " Inappropriate " restrictions to their caring duties.

Re: A government slave

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:20 pm
by Suzanne_1507
I received an email in response to the petition to increase Carer's Allowance in line with the minimum wage. The Government stated that they did not consider it to be a "wage" or to replace proper work. :? :?

I can't work - I'm too busy caring for 2 family members (only allowed to claim for 1) and I have a number of serious health problems which means that no employer will touch me even if I wasn't caring. It is probably the caring that keeps me "sane" while driving me to the point of despair at the same time. Yet I'm still hounded by the DWP and JobCentrePlus with letters, emails, texts and phone calls asking me if I'm able to do "a proper job". :mad: :mad:

Re: A government slave

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:33 pm
by Chris From The Gulag
The Government stated that they did not consider it to be a "wage" or to replace proper work.


Definately one for Barbara Keeley and her cronies to sort out on Carers Day in the House ... provided , of course , they don't run out of time by defining carers and other , associated , drivel that passes for " Debate " when it comes to carers.

If any reader has not read the Hansard transcript of the last one , worth a few minutes to peruse to see
exactly what we carers have to put up with when it comes our affairs being discussed in the House.

For some , perhaps a small fee NOT to attend the Debate would benefit carers ?

I will assume that ALL members of the All Party Carers Group attended the " Debate " ?

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2 ... 001/Carers
Yet I'm still hounded by the DWP and JobCentrePlus with letters, emails, texts and phone calls asking me if I'm able to do "a proper job


Perhaps the Voice would mention this " Misunderstanding " next time one of their hierarchy speaks with Dr. Ian Poulter , current chairman of the All Party Carers Group ?

More importantly , a breach of law ... discrimination by association ... when dealing with the disabled , and carers .... Equality Act , 2010 ???

Just how long have carers been recognised as carers in this country ?

Could be an interesting conversation when considering Jenny's idea should also be on that agenda ?

Any red lights reading through this thread ?

Re: A government slave

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:48 am
by Chris From The Gulag
Seems like another proposal from the grass roots has met with a distinct lack of interest from certain quarters ?

Even a " Sorry squire , no point in us taking this further. " would be appreciated ?

At least any reader will then know if our postings are being read by those who are in a position to act ?

The Voice of Carers ... cuts both ways ?