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Carers UK Forum • Type 2 Diabetes
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Type 2 Diabetes

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:46 am
by Debbie
Hi

I haven't been able to post for a while, but I'm just wondering if anybody could give me some advise.
My husband has just been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes he was absolutely devastated as he has just lost 2 stone in weight & thought he was doing really well. They have told him not to worry but saying that to somebody who suffers with PTSD & Anxiety & Depression is a joke. He now has to wait until Dec until he goes to his first session at the clinic so he will do nothing but fret.

They have put him on medication straight away as his glucose level was 19.1 & should be between 3.6-6-1. also his cholesterol was 12.7 & should be between 4-5.
Its really what sort of diet does he need to eat because he really likes the odd bit of choc & now he thinks he can't have any at all.
I would be grateful for any advise.

Thanks & hope your all doing ok
Take care Deb Image

Funnily enough Debbie I've only

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:21 am
by charles47
Funnily enough Debbie I've only recently been diagnosed myself. I'm on tablets for the diabetes and for cholesterol, and I'm just now getting to grips with the whole thing...

The important thing to remember is that things should improve now he's on medication to help him. Not knowing you're diabetic is far more likely to kill you than knowing! But it can be a shock for people when they find out...and one more thing to worry about. Or rather, lots, if you start worrying about all the complications, etc. Best thing to do is to concentrate on how much better you feel once things are more under control, and learning to recognise the signs when things are less good so you can rectify them more quickly.

Cutting down on carbohydrates (potatoes, pasta, rice) and increasing on vegetables can help, but I'd have thought your GP should put your husband in touch with a dietitian, as it's not just about losing weight but also about controlling the glucose in your system. Reducing fat in your diet helps with controlling cholesterol, as does eating high fibre foods - wholemeal pasta, porridge, brown rice, etc.

In the meantime, it's worth starting with Diabetes UK - they're on the web and have some dietary advice, which may help a little at least:

http://www.diabetes.org.uk/

And the occasional piece of (dark) chocolate is ok, I'm told. Can't stand dark chocolate myself. Image Image

It's easy for me to say but a positive mental attitude can help. Knowing that you can control it - with the proper help and encouragement - takes some of the pressure off.

My father is Type 2

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:45 am
by cotula
My father is Type 2 diabetic.

The best thing to improve control is to use a blood glucose testing meter to find out which foods he can eat only in small quantities, and those he can eat more of. Some doctors/diabetes specialist nurses say they think patients worry more if they see what their blood glucose figures are, so do not give prescriptions for the lancets and test strips - but how else is a diabetic going to get in control if they do not know? And feeling you are in control has to be more reassuring than waiting for weeks or months until the surgery does a test for you.

I mostly read the newsgroup alt.support.diabetes.uk, but some of the most knowledgeable people from there also hang out on the Diabetes Support Forum UK (www.dsolve.com).

I believe that some people

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:35 pm
by Lazydaisy
I believe that some people are now having problems obtaining testing strips for their blood glucose, if they have type 2 diabetes. Relatives in Birmingham have this problem.Apparently the medical profession do not think it necessary for type 2 Diabetics to test their sugars often.

I think it would be far easier to keep control, knowing what your sugar is doing.

Type 2 Diabetes

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:21 pm
by Debbie
Hi Everyone!

I would just like to thank everyone for taking the time to reply!!

I will have a look on the the diabetes website & see what advise they can offer, but its been great just to have some ideas from you all.

hope your all doing ok?

Take care Deb x

I had a half-hour session

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:35 am
by charles47
I had a half-hour session with the practice nurse, most of which was to warn me to control my sugar levels, and then she told me that if I didn't need tablets I wouldn't get a blood glucose meter.

The two don't add up and although I didn't query it at the time (didn't have the information to hand and was returning a few days later to find out whether I would need tablets or not) I went off and found out.

The government's National Service Framework for diabetes states that it is vital to support diabetics on diet only to control their blood sugar levels. And how else can they do this?

So I went, girded up for battle, only to find that I'm on tablets and therefore "warrant" a meter.

My husband and two sons

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:34 pm
by Lazydaisy
My husband and two sons have had to pay for their meters, but they do get their testing strips on prescription. Two of the meters have recently had to be renewed,but my husband did a bogof deal online.

If a meter 'dies' on

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:58 pm
by cotula
If a meter 'dies' on you, it is always worth contacting the manufacturer - the customer service phone line is often free, and they make so much money from strips that they often give away replacement meters. If you do have to buy, make sure that you do not pay VAT if you are on medication.

The meter I got gave

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:18 pm
by charles47
The meter I got gave some very strange readings, which I checked against a friend's that I know to be reasonably accurate. The readings were constantly fluctuating even when my friend's meter was giving stable readings, arguing that something was wrong. So I went to my chemist to buy another meter, this time similar to my friend's: they are on offer. As you say, Cotula, the profit is in the strips and lancets. The offer was: "Fill in this warranty card. Here's your meter." It even rang up on the till as "£0.00".

My kind of price!

Both my mother in law

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:44 pm
by Catja
Both my mother in law and my husband have type II diabetes (although the test result for my husband was borderline twice).

Both of them can eat a normal healthy diet, and their blood sugar levels have always been in the safe range when tested (although not tested every day) - moderation in all things.

My husband was told by the diabetes opthalmist that as long as his blood pressure (as well as the blood sugar) is managed (so that it doesn't violently surge and dip), there's little danger of nerve damage or going blind.

As for the v high blood cholesterol, one of the medications (metformin) given for type II diabetes also works a bit like a statin but without quite such bad side effects as some statins can give.

IMHO this diagnosis really isn't the end of the world, compared with having the disease undiagnosed and getting the nerve damage etc a lot more quickly.