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Carers UK Forum • Suicide and lack of support from the services - Page 3
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Hello Huegatort Sorry if I misjudged

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:11 pm
by jessie
Hello Huegatort

Sorry if I misjudged your situation, I'm so personally angry about so many things, sometimes I don't read posts deeply enough.

Think you could be right in your son's case, i.e. diagnosis has been changed to save money. Don't let them. Keep fighting and all my best wishes to your son.

personality disorder no longer a diagnosis of exclusion

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:41 am
by Londonbound
There should be help available for people with personality disorder, NICE have published a report.
personality disorder no longer a diagnosis of exclusion

Sorry i can't do a link but PCT's should be implementing this guidelines, devoloping specalist services for people with personality disorder.
It says that often people with very distressing personality disorders are just turned away as they don't act right, don't behave the way they should simply leading to more distress.
I'ts breaking the cycle of rejection and ensuring people with personality disorders get the help they need.
If anyone wants more info let me know, if you put the above into a search engine you can get a PDF file you can read on the computer or print out.


Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:31 pm
by barry.tebb
10% of patients with this illness suicide,only in depression(15%) is the risk higher.I have been down this road of "Confidentiality" and other problematic issues around this illness for many years.As next of kin you have a legal right to insist that your son is given an immediate assesment as 'a risk to himself or others' under the Mental Health Act.If your trust refuses this then you must contact the Care Quality Commission by phone.(number on net,not yet with Directory Inquiries!)If you go down this route and your son is sectioned he may be very angry,blame you and refuse you access to information about his condition.This is part of his illness but it does ensure treatment and a bed for at least 28 days.Technically it is known as the 'out of contact 'phase and may last from weeks to months but your son will eventually re-establish contact.However painful you find this the suicide risk will be professionally monitored and he will not be discharged until the risk has passed.If your son is prepared to be admitted voluntarily then so much the better.As carers you have the right to a carer's assesment by Social Services.This is a statutory duty but if the dept does not comply you must make a Stage 1 written complaint-a few lines will do .Our son has for months refused all contact with anyone.His mother finds this incredibly painful and says"My son has thrown his mother away".By no means all schizophrenics are like this but the illness is a deteriotating condition.


Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:41 pm
by barry.tebb
According to DSM4TR(the psychiatrist's manual) there are 10 PD's,another register says 12 and in his "Spectrum of Borderline Personality Disorders'Meissner lists 416.I suspect Meissner is right.PD usually presents as something else to begin with.PD is difficult to diagnose and even more difficult to treat.Medication is usually ineffective.There is a large selection of books available on Amazon for a couple of pounds.Buy a few and get reading!By law every trust must have PD Unit.