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DRAFT NEW DESIGN FOR THE FORUM - Carers UK Forum

DRAFT NEW DESIGN FOR THE FORUM

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I am utterly dismayed that I seem to be one of the select few allowed to see the proposed design for the forum.

For 20 years I ran a national lorry club and wrote a magazine once described as "the best of it's type in Europe". It was entirely designed and written by me. I gave up running the club a few years ago, but they are still using my magazine.
There had to be something of interest for everyone. Some of my members didn't read very well, some were very well qualified engineers, and there were a few millionaires too.

My magazine was written mainly in black writing on white pages, with colour pictures. There was an easy to read index at the front.

Carers UK also has a very diverse membership, some will be expert carers of many years standing, some will be very familiar with using a forum, so they would be able to navigate almost anything easily. On the other hand, there will be many new members, some in shock from a recent diagnosis realising that their lives have changed forever. They may be reaching out to a forum for the first time in their lives. Some won't be very "computer literate", some won't have English as their first language.

The first time I looked at the "new" design, I didn't even get to the bottom of the page - and I'm a carer of 40 years, having had a total of 10 carees!!

I've now gone back to it three times to make suggestions, but every time I look it seems worse, not better. Completely unfit for purpose.

We've had several disastrous "upgrades" to our forum in the past, each one causing months of problems, and a huge loss of regular contributors who gave up and never come back.

This new one is ghastly, in my opinion.

I think it should not just be shared with a select few, but with every single member of the forum.


WHY HASN'T IT BEEN SHARED WITH EVERYONE?
Oh dear , what was predicted now becoming reality ?

To save me digging to find an old thread :

Forum is used by us.

As end users , surely we should have the final say on any redesign ?

After all , it's for OUR benefit ... CUK freely admit that they " Don't have the time " to monitor it.

TapaTalk / php ... both come with templates as to " Flavours. "

Would you buy a tin of paint without looking at a colour scheme first ?

As for actual design ... I have not seen the prototype ... many forums that have switched from php to TapaTalk have now
switched back again !

Perhaps the word DEMOCRACY is very apt in this instance.

We are fed up to the teeth in being TOLD by all and sundry out there ... both supporting organisations no exception !

ANY FORUM ... SIMPLICITY AND EASE OF USE ... ESPECIALLY WHEN TRYING TO FIND INFORMATION ... ANYTHING ELSE COMES
AS A BONUS.

( Even colour coding the various sections ... to save on the sea of blue and white ... would be a vast improvement at
little expense ... as I did with the main CHC / NHS CONTINUING HEALTHCARE thread ... imagine that one now without
the colour coding ??? )
My recommendation to CUK ?

Stick the prototype up on a separate .url.

Direct anyone reading the forum to view it.

Invite comments ... and introduce a simple YES / NO poll.

Monitor ... and come to decision after ... say ... a month.

2 / 3rds. + 1 ... a majority ... either way.

And ... please ... no Brexit type stalling afterwards ?
Hi Bowlingbun and Chris, just to clarify that what was shared with bowlingbun was a very rough draft of our website front page. It was not the forum. We are still in the initial stages of the website redevelopment project, so very far from the final design! The reason why bowlingbun received this is because she is an Insight volunteer. Insight volunteers provide key insight from their caring experiences on different areas of our work. The role is available on our website for anyone interested in applying: https://www.carersuk.org/search/research-volunteer

Hope this clarifies things.
Hope this clarifies things.


Yep ... PROVIDING our concerns and recommendations have been " Duly noted " and ... not binned ?

To have been consulted first even before the prototype was launched would have been ... from our perspective ... a bonus ?

( Henry Ford / CUK ... Model T Ford ... " You can have any colour you like ... so long as it's black " ... )
Chris From The Gulag wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:52 am
Hope this clarifies things.


Yep ... PROVIDING our concerns and recommendations have been " Duly noted " and ... not binned ?
Yes, I will share bowlingbun's feedback with my colleague who is collating the feedback from the other Insight volunteers.
Mmmm ... some forum members more equal than others ?

Are those now to decide on issues for the majority ?

Stick the prototype up for ALL to see ... and comment on.

( If you prefer a more modern phrase ... " Run it up the flag pole and see if anyone salutes it. " )

Purely rhetorical.
If it's any consolation Chris I (as a Moderator) haven't even seen the draft prototype for the new Carers UK MAIN WEBSITE (not the Forum which is en entirely different animal) although I was aware that the website was due to be redesigned.

As Lizzie has pointed out
Lizzie Carers UK wrote: Hi Bowlingbun and Chris, just to clarify that what was shared with bowlingbun was a very rough draft of our website front page. It was not the forum. We are still in the initial stages of the website redevelopment project, so very far from the final design! The reason why bowlingbun received this is because she is an Insight volunteer. Insight volunteers provide key insight from their caring experiences on different areas of our work. The role is available on our website for anyone interested in applying: https://www.carersuk.org/search/research-volunteer

Hope this clarifies things.
To suggest that ALL forum users be consulted on the design of the main website (or even just the forum alone) is not practical. There would be just too many varying views on design, layout, typeface, colour, content etc, etc. As the poet John Lydgate said
“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t …”
… please all of the people all of the time” !
Thanks Susie.

Interesting ... still can't locate the existing thread with previous thoughts on it.

I reserve judgement ... further postings under this thread should suffice ... given present traffic , may be a few days ?

If only the CUK main site , won't deter many new visitors UNLESS they cannot find the forum ?

Present forum ?

Ideal if I could work all the time in COMBOOT ( CHC / NHS Continuing Healthcare thread ) with the added add ons ...
especially the COLOUR feature ... but so time consuming when compared with JPROSILVER.

( And , it was thanks to you that I eventually achieved that !!! )

Okay if one is only posting occasionly as opposed to a heavyweight like myself ... and topping / tailoring articles before being
posted onto the forum.

( Used to colour code them in the days when the COLOUR feature on JPROSILVER worked before that infamous update ! )


That's just me ... be " Interesting " to gauge reaction to a new forum layout ... TapaTalk or php ... IF the formats change.

( Out of curiousity , how many regular forum posters ... not viewers ... actually go over to the main site ?
I confess to taking a peek once in a while ... and numerous other petty misdemeanours ... purely rhetorical ! )
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