Power of Attorney........interesting points

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This is an interesting one. I was astounded when the "granted" Power of Attorney arrived. Silly me....I was expecting the Public Guardianship Office to issue-a-Certificate with the relevant details, not the whole bloomin' form (all 15? pages of it) that my Mum and I had filled in two months ago, complete with signatures and all of our information and family information in one fell swoop. Call me paranoid, but this will be going off to every Tom Dick or Harry in every company that my Mum has dealt with. Or at least it will, when I have gotten around to photocopying(with a Notary .....???) and certifying that all fifteen pages are a genuine photocopy.
It beggars belief doesn't it.
somethingshort wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:31 pm
This is an interesting one. I was astounded when the "granted" Power of Attorney arrived. Silly me....I was expecting the Public Guardianship Office to issue-a-Certificate with the relevant details, not the whole bloomin' form (all 15? pages of it) that my Mum and I had filled in two months ago, complete with signatures and all of our information and family information in one fell swoop. Call me paranoid, but this will be going off to every Tom Dick or Harry in every company that my Mum has dealt with. Or at least it will, when I have gotten around to photocopying(with a Notary .....???) and certifying that all fifteen pages are a genuine photocopy.
It beggars belief doesn't it.
Oh I forgot to mention. Sending it to the Council today I had to pay £6.50 for the weight and of course.........Special Delivery..........because you know the Council has a habit of denying these things ever reached them in the first place.
Can be daunting ... and expensive ... at times.

Government's own guidance on Certified P.O.As. :

https://www.gov.uk/power-of-attorney/certify
I don't remember having all that for mum or brother. There was just one bit of A4 paper.
I may be out of date but looking back to my office days , when I received copies of POAs , people only ever sent in the page with the relevant bits, and signatures on it not the whole bundle. Maybe times have changed?
How to certify a copy

Write the following text on the bottom of every page of the copy:

“I certify this is a true and complete copy of the corresponding page of the original lasting power of attorney.”

On the final page of the copy, you must also write:

“I certify this is a true and complete copy of the lasting power of attorney.”

You need to sign and date every page.



No indication as to the whole document or just the relevant bit.

Only one way to be sure ... ?
My mum's POA and my brothers were done by our family solicitor. When I needed copies, I just asked for a copy and the one page document was provided, signed and stamped by the solicitor.

I'm wondering if the OP used a solicitor, if that is the difference?
I was granted POA and it took two years to get it.

I got a total of three pages and one had the official stamp and that is all I have to show to prove I have POA as that states in which areas I have POA in

I guess it depends were in the UK live in as to how much paper work or how much they have to cover and how long it takes. I am amazed you got it that quickly.

I think as long as you have the stamped seal which has the details of area of cover you only have to show this not every part of the paper work although I could be wrong as that could be different in other areas of the UK as I am in Greenock in Scotland
Gorden_1609 wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:22 pm
I was granted POA and it took two years to get it.

I got a total of three pages and one had the official stamp and that is all I have to show to prove I have POA as that states in which areas I have POA in

I guess it depends were in the UK live in as to how much paper work or how much they have to cover and how long it takes. I am amazed you got it that quickly.

I think as long as you have the stamped seal which has the details of area of cover you only have to show this not every part of the paper work although I could be wrong as that could be different in other areas of the UK as I am in Greenock in Scotland

I've read all of this with interest. Particularly the one where it took two years.....two years! This was done through a Solicitor, although I think eight weeks is about the norm (that is the from the time it is submitted to the Office of the Public Guardian . I'm intrigued now and think I will go back to the Solicitor and ask if it is really necessary to send the whole bundle of paperwork to all and sundry. I definitely haven't got a certificate as such? The whole bundle is perforated with holes at the bottom of each page which I think is the only proof of having it - no official stamp as such. Hmmm. I will look into this.
bowlingbun wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:01 pm
My mum's POA and my brothers were done by our family solicitor. When I needed copies, I just asked for a copy and the one page document was provided, signed and stamped by the solicitor.

I'm wondering if the OP used a solicitor, if that is the difference?
Thanks everyone for your comments on this. Yes, we went through a Solicitor for this, but no reference was made to any copies. I was just sent the whole bundle of papers which I filled in myself but now they have perforated holes at the bottom of each page which was done by the Guardianship Office. It didn't occur to me to single any pages out....and there are about 15 of them. Every one is individually perforated by the Guardianship Office.