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Big end or small end?

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david c wrote:
Scally wrote:
Penny wrote: Did you think you were being controversial to call other people on here "dim" or "stupid" because they voted differently to you in the referendum? Did you think it would liven up discussion? It did neither, it just resulted in the thread being closed and all future discussion stopped. The thread was going along OK until you got the sulks because your side didn't win!!
I look forward to what the moderators promised which is updates on how being out of the EU will or will not affect carers.
Basically, by voting to leave the EU, the people who voted to leave have just created a huge headache: the UK economy stands to lose £70 Billion, unemployment will soar, and Scotland is even more pissed off than usual because we voted to stay - we may well decide to leave the rest of you anyway and go our own way. Hope you are proud of that: personally I would happily throttle the Brexiteers, because they are so incredibly dim that they 'know not what they do'. They were nearly all very old, mostly English, and most of them will not live long enough to see the folly of their actions. Young people voted for the EU: they have a future, old crusties don't.

My view is that we should ignore the crumblies and stay in the European Union anyway: the Brexiteers won by lying, and they didn't get a proper majority anyhow, only about 37%, which is pretty marginal. And it is only advisory.

I'll tell you how getting out of the EU will affect Carers: we are about to witness our economy being torched, and as the lowest of the low, expect to get hit, very hard, in the pocket.

Anyway, I have an Honours Degree, and two years postgraduate studies at Manchester Business School, so that obviously disqualifies me from participating in the vox-pop, or considering the implications for carers. What exactly are your academic qualifications, Penny?
MISS MISS ,Scally is being naughty Again. :evil:
David. I don't make the rules on here but if you look at the thread entitled "Discussion about the EU Referendum" it is all explained. It's really not my problem if some people can't get over the fact that the majority of British people voted to leave the EU. The big sulk just continues for some people and why they have to keep trying to reintroduce it to this forum is beyond me, especially as they have been asked not to by the moderators.
Greta wrote:Scally, I think you're being a bit unfair calling the Brexiters dim. I think it is more that large parts of English (and Welsh) society have suffered a lot from the problems of the economy over the past decades, they saw the referendum as a chance to get revenge on the government, and they directed their anger at the wrong target, led by a strong Leave campaign and not helped by a Remain campaign that missed some of the issues. That makes them misguided but not necessarily dim.

Also, as one of the 40% of over 60s and of the English who voted to remain (OK, I'm in London), I'm not impressed by your use of statistics to suggest the old English are uneducated and should burn in hell. It seems a bit one-sided to me. There is also a bit of a discrepancy in your use of statistics - I hope you can select the correct 37% of the electorate who deserve roasting before you start.

(B.A., Ph.D., Solicitor)
Nicely put, Greta.

Not sure why Scally felt the need to list his qualifications but it seems to have started a trend. I never had the opportunity to go to university so I have no degree - perhaps I need to find another forum that caters for dim people like me? :dry:
Not sure why Scally felt the need to list his qualifications but it seems to have started a trend. I never had the opportunity to go to university so I have no degree - perhaps I need to find another forum that caters for dim people like me? :dry:[/quote wrote:
Qualifications and education were one of the biggest dividing lines of this result, next to age:
A majority (57%) of those with a university degree voted to remain, as did 64% of those with a higher degree and more than four in five (81%) of those still in full time education. Among those whose formal education ended at secondary school or earlier, a large majority voted to leave.
White voters voted to leave the EU by 53% to 47%. Two thirds (67%) of those describing themselves as Asian voted to remain, as did three quarters (73%) of black voters. Nearly six in ten (58%) of those describing themselves as Christian voted to leave; seven in ten Muslims voted to remain.
The AB social group (broadly speaking, professionals and managers) were the only social group among whom a majority voted to remain (57%). C1s divided fairly evenly; nearly two thirds of C2DEs (64%) voted to leave the EU.
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/ho ... d-and-why/
Please may I remind you:

https://www.carersuk.org/forum/social-a ... ndum-26606

Discussions about the EU referendum
Postby Kate, Carers UK » Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:58 am

Hi everyone,

This is a post to let you know that we have decided to remove the EU referendum thread, and will be removing any other discussions on this topic that are not related to caring and are likely to create division, argument or offence.

The Carers UK Forum exists so anyone who is caring for a loved one has a welcoming place where they can get support, understanding and advice from other carers.

The debate about the EU referendum has reached the point where it is a clear distraction from the true purpose of the forum, and at times is actively undermining it. There are many places where you can debate political issues - online or otherwise. A supportive forum that anyone who is caring for a loved one can come to for support, understanding and friendship is far more rare, and needs to be protected.

And with limited volunteer and staff support, this discussion has become an unjustifiable drain on the forum, taking time away that could be spent welcoming new members and supporting people through the ups and downs of caring.

http://www.carersuk.org/forum/forum-gui ... ules-21290

Carers UK has the right to remove, edit, move or close any topic at any time should they see fit. Carers UK also reserves the right to ban users or remove postings if they -

- contain insulting personal remarks, are offensive, abusive or libellous or act in a way to cause harassment


Kind regards,

Kate
Yes, but this is the chit-chat side of the forum, effectively the playground: people who want to just discuss caring have the whole rest of the forum to keep them entertained, there needs to be a place for letting off steam too, you know :D
Hi everyone,

As we've said before, anything that causes division, resentment and tension in the forum - whether it's the EU referendum, or the way we eat our boiled eggs – isn't contributing to the forum being a supportive, welcoming place for carers to talk about everything that comes with caring.

Caring can be emotionally and practically complicated, and difficult issues will arise naturally. We don't need to deliberately seek them out or provoke them - especially when the issue under debate isn't directly related to caring.

We encourage people to discuss any issues on the forum - not just caring. But if an issue is causing division and resentment, we will take action and close it down if needed.

There are many places where you can debate political issues as frankly as you like. A supportive forum that anyone who is caring for a loved one can come to for support, understanding and friendship is far more rare, and needs to be protected.

So we're locking this thread. If you want to reread the rules you can find them here: https://www.carersuk.org/forum/forum-gu ... ules-21290

All the best,

Kate