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Brexit ... Or The Hokey Cokey ? A Contuing Pantomine Which Is NOT Funny , Possibly Toxic To Many ! - Page 2 - Carers UK Forum

Brexit ... Or The Hokey Cokey ? A Contuing Pantomine Which Is NOT Funny , Possibly Toxic To Many !

Please feel free to join in or start any games.
Thanks Susie.

Your forbearance with certain posters and threads that almost , but not quite , exceed the forum guidelines ... even crossover but return by the time you notice ... " Just getting me ball back , missus ... honest ! " ... is legendary.

( Fairer for carers ? One that was very close to " Upsetting " the normal , well mannered , carefully thought out . even tranquil postings / threads on the forum ... as opposed to a red flag to a whole herd of bulls ? The first yellow card to a red ? )

Another slighty , thicker , card will be on it's way for Easter.

Make the most of it this year ... all the " Good " chocolate eggs will be sitting in Calais / Dunkirk / Ostend !

( Is you in or is you out ? Undecided ? Perhaps shake it all about first ? And then see the resulting disaster that comes out ? )

( Do I pick the new kid to play against United ? Might make a difference ... 0-6 as opposed to 0-7 ? )

Perhaps Mr. Clive Dunn has the most realistic view on the Hokey Cokey ... sorry ... Brexit ?


Listening to last night's Question Time ... yep , Friday morning punishment ... and a mp quoting Mandy Rice Davies ?

" Well he would say that , wouldn't he ? "

( Profumo ... Steven Ward trial ... classic ! )


ABSOLUTE CLASSIC COVER ... premonition if you like ... the tabloids ... before they were tabloids !

Only thing worth noting ... so far !

As for the rest , might as well be speaking in Klingon ?

Is we in or is we out ?

No good asking any of that lot !
Key EU medicines regulator closes London office with loss of 900 jobs.

European Medicines Agency heads for Amsterdam 63 days before Brexit.

Would the last one out please make sure the lights are turned off ?

We better make sure just in case the power workers don't it for us ?

Would be somewhat ironic if only thing he have left to burn is the coal beneath our feet ... a little more under mine than yours ?

Maggie would be trying to turn in her grave ... if it wasn't for that stake ?
Brexit : £17 billion already ripped out of UK public purse due to decision to quit EU, research shows.

Exclusive : The think tank study indicates GDP would be 2.3 per cent higher had the UK voted to remain in the EU.

Brexit is already costing the UK’s public finances £17bn a year, according to a detailed study released ahead of critical votes in parliament this week.

The amount would be sufficient to pay 10,000 more police to patrol the streets and train nurses to fill every vacancy in England, and still leave enough to cover the UK’s current contribution to the EU’s budget.

The research from the Centre for European Reform estimates the UK economy is 2.3 per cent smaller than it would have been had Britain voted to remain in the EU back in 2016.

The think tank calculated that the reduced GDP would limit the Treasury’s spending power by £17bn a year, or £320m per week – around the amount promised for the NHS by the Leave campaign on the side of its touring bus.

On Tuesday MPs will attempt to break the Brexit deadlock in a series of votes that could hand parliament more power to control the next phase of Brexit, though the signs are that the impasse and uncertainty may go on for weeks.

But the CER’s research indicates that whatever route is chosen, Brexit has already taken a heavy toll on the British economy.

Deputy director John Springford said: “Britain’s decision to leave the EU damaged growth, largely thanks to higher inflation and lower business investment.

“The UK missed out on a broad-based upturn in growth among advanced economies in 2017 and early 2018. And the economic cost of the decision so far is sizeable, if not disastrous.”


The CER’s most up-to-date analysis, passed to The Independent, used a computer programme to create a “doppleganger” UK economy which it then tracked from 2009 until today.

The doppleganger closely matched the real UK economy until the referendum in 2016, when the two countries’ economic performance diverged – with the real UK’s GDP 2.3 per cent lower by the third quarter of 2018.

The analysis found that 1 per cent of lost GDP resulted in £7.6bn of extra borrowing. Given that there is no discernible “Brexit dividend” yet, it means that for the real UK’s 2.3 per cent loss in GDP, there is a hit to the public finances of £17bn a year.

Critically, it also implies that the UK’s fiscal deficit would have largely been eliminated in the 2018-19 financial year if Britain had voted to remain in the EU.

Mr Springford said: “The CER will continue to update our model as new quarterly GDP data comes in – and as a result, we will have a decent basis to test the claims made by Leave and Remain. So far, ‘Project Fear’ continues to be closer to the truth.”

Data released by the Office for National Statistics earlier this week pointed to a need for more resourcing for public services, as it showed violent crime recorded in England and Wales has risen by 19 per cent in a year, amid plummeting police numbers.

An average salary for a new police constable is just under £31,000, add some £12,000 for recruitment and training, and the cost of 10,000 new officers reaches £430m.

With the cost of training one nurse at around £70,000 and a starting salary of some £25,000, it would cost £3.8bn to fill all 40,000 vacancies in England.

Yet even after taking on the substantial costs of restaffing police forces and hospitals, the CER research indicates that had the UK voted Remain there would still be several billion pounds left for the chancellor to play with this year – even after paying off the UK’s £8.9bn net annual contribution to the EU.

The CER’s data could have deep implications for how MPs vote in a series of critical divisions on Tuesday, when parliament will take decisions on several different proposals for what to do next.

Some plans being put forward by MPs would extend the Article 50 negotiating period, others would give more power to parliament to direct the government’s next steps, with the prospect of a second referendum further down the line.

In the meantime Theresa May is planning to return to the European Union in an attempt to secure new concessions on the withdrawal agreement she negotiated with Brussels, to make the deal more palatable to her Conservative MPs.
I think I'm the only nutter who enjoys listening to it all. I get back from work and put Sky news or BBC Parliament on :evil: for relaxtion
Could be worse ... reading this forum or , better still ... CUK's press releases ???

Only jesting CUK ... as per usual ... some good bedtime stories ... so I'm told.

" Once apon a time .... "

After all , this is the FUN AND GAMES section .... unless I'm in the bargain basement by mistake ... pressed the wrong button ?
Peers and MPs receiving millions in EU farm subsidies.

Analysis by Guardian and Friends of the Earth raises questions about impartiality in post-Brexit reform.

Mmmm ... explains why a lot more than 'alf of the Establishment voted to REMAIN ... a little cash incentitve there , yer lords and ladies ?

Vested interests ... MUST be preserved ?

Let us all hope and pray that they do not drop that " H " ... as in pheasant shooting season , perhaps ???
Brexit : Over two thirds of UK public do not feel represented by political parties, report says

Hope Not Hate campaign group suggests " Citizens’ assemblies "could solve deadlock.

Put another way , if your house needs a new roof , do you ask the local dentist to take on the work ?
Today's ongoing news ?


Teresa May to Henry Ford ( 1927 ... 2019 = EEC ) :

" This Model-T ... yes , I want to puchase it ... but ... in red with a white stripe ... that can be changed to a diagonal one , coloured blue ? "

( Variations including backstops ? )

Henry Ford's reply ( 2019 ... EEC ) ... sorry ... that is censored ... after all , a yank ???


In short , the same NO as previously uttered by Charlie Boy ... close on 50 years ago !

( For younger readers , the Model-T Ford came in the colour of your choice ... so long as it's black ! ... and no stripes ! )