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Carers UK Forum • WORKLESS FAMILIES - Page 4
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We are a part of

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:15 pm
by Lazydaisy
We are a part of Society, as are our carees.People choose to have children,(most of the time), people do not choose to have a disability.I choose to care, because at the moment I am the person who can cope best with the needs of my carees,and they want me to be their Carer.As such, then I should be supported to do the best job of caring that I can.
That goes for everyone who is a Carer.We should all have the right support to get from one day to the next, including emergencies, throughout our caring lives and for a time afterwards of applicable.

Re: now what...

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:33 pm
by AspieMum
Even if I did decide to get a job when would I work? I have to be here all day when they are awake and oddly enough Westminster I am human not a machine I need SLEEP. I know this is a alien and confusing concept for the politicians to handle but we are people.
I cant go on a march I have two to look after if it was one I might be able to wheel her down their but two? The goverment attacks carers because they know we can't go on strike, that we cant march because we have our charges to take care of, no employer on earth is going to hire someone who can handle three hours a day, with a employee who is exhausted all the time and has to rush off when their mobile goes.
There will be millions of unemployed yet the conservatives simply say get on a bus and go to a job.... yes when there are unemployed everywhere a employer is really going to hire someone who is from out of the area and may have difficulty getting to work I swear I do despair for this country.
I have Aspergers Syndrome in addition to being a carer. Even if I stop being a carer as the kids grow up I will need support in order to hold down a job (I tried the no support option before I knew about AS and it doesn't work). Only 15% of people with AS are in paid employment. What hope do I stand of getting a job as someone with AS who is also a carer even if I could reasonably reliably find the time?

In the name of fairness Disabled

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:36 pm
by AspieMum
In the name of fairness

Disabled people want to work, individuals on sickness benefit want to work, and last but not least Carers want to work and care.

Except there’s a problem
Cuts will hit women twice as hard as men, Commons research shows
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010 ... ing-review

Carers are not a special case why should the rest of the society have to support them?
Any carer who has the time is likely to want a paid job even if only for a chance to actually meet other people and have a break from the loneliness.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010 ... rom-london This is in

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:50 am
by Guest
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010 ... rom-london

This is in addition to the repeated suggestion by sucessive governments and now reiterated by IDS that people should move from areas of low employment opportunity to areas where jobs are available in order to obtain employment which has left areas where mines, heavy industries, etc. have closed with streets of boarded-up housing which only those who are least unemployable continue to live. When I first read the story in Inside Housing yesterday the words "social cleansing" also came to my mind and the social problems one tends to associate with countries where welfare payments are virtually or completely non-existent.

excuse me...

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:26 pm
by guineapiggies86
I care for two disabled elderly grandparents, I have tried to hold down jobs but wit my grandparents calling me home because they can't do something or find something means I have lost work, I want to work but a job that allows me to be there for my grandparents and be employed simply doesn't exist.
I am not lazy I have looked for the last few years for a part time job been to countless interviews and each time my carers responsibilities have lost me the job because I need to be home for hospital appointments.
How dare someone who has no idea of what its like try to say I am lazy, I cannot find a job not when there are people with no responsibilities who can work any hours, according to the news one million people will be unemployed, that's one million other people most who probably don't care, who can work any hours so I haven't got a chance in hell, I didn't chose to lose all my friends due to lack of time to go out, I didn't chose to have no income or job prospects, when society does not provide adequate care then they should support those who do the job that care homes used to.

Sorry but I am getting so angry with being labelled lazy when I am not, being called a benefit sponge when I dont want to be on them, I CANNOT find work, I cannot spend a hour on a bus to find work when I do they will not hire me because I care.

Re: excuse me...

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:00 pm
by elle21
I care for two disabled elderly grandparents, I have tried to hold down jobs but wit my grandparents calling me home because they can't do something or find something means I have lost work, I want to work but a job that allows me to be there for my grandparents and be employed simply doesn't exist.
I am not lazy I have looked for the last few years for a part time job been to countless interviews and each time my carers responsibilities have lost me the job because I need to be home for hospital appointments.
How dare someone who has no idea of what its like try to say I am lazy, I cannot find a job not when there are people with no responsibilities who can work any hours, according to the news one million people will be unemployed, that's one million other people most who probably don't care, who can work any hours so I haven't got a chance in hell, I didn't chose to lose all my friends due to lack of time to go out, I didn't chose to have no income or job prospects, when society does not provide adequate care then they should support those who do the job that care homes used to.

Sorry but I am getting so angry with being labelled lazy when I am not, being called a benefit sponge when I dont want to be on them, I CANNOT find work, I cannot spend a hour on a bus to find work when I do they will not hire me because I care.
its a damn disgrace they call us all lazy.. lazy.. alot of carers are lucky to get any sleep, we work night and day, with no sick pay, no sick days, no holiday breaks, no day offs nothing...

out of any tory MP i thought David cameron would have a tiny understanding for the disabled people. he had a disabled son himself.. quoting him he says

"In a 2007 speech, Mr Cameron described how he cared for the "severely disabled" Ivan.
It's what I do at the start of each day. It's sharpened my focus on the world of care assessments, eligibility criteria, disability living allowance, respite breaks, OTs, SENCOs, and other sets of initials.
But I would not dare to call myself a carer. The work that full-time carers or those with little extra help do is unbelievable."


HAHA.. what a JOKE!!! he sharp forgets himself that guy

oh and this bit
"Friends have said the experience of caring for Ivan broadened Mr Cameron's political outlook and made him a passionate supporter of the NHS, which helped provide the round-the-clock care Ivan needed. "

this is the very reason cameron has NOT GOT A CLUE what life of a carer is like.. round the clock care provided by the NHS.. why didnt he try doing that round the clock care himself and see how knackered he got from no sleep day after day year after year, then be told hes a lazy scrounger and get off his arse and get a job...

Elle I couldnt have put

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:56 am
by Nilla
Elle I couldnt have put it better myself!

hear hear Elle

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:24 am
by nelliejo
hear hear Elle

Well said Elle

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:12 pm
by no1mum
Well said Elle

Maybe we should petition George

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:18 pm
by jonlucpicard
Maybe we should petition George Osborne and make it clear that as carers we do not want to be classed as workless and that if carers are to be classed as workless then we will all seek employment and leave the caring to the nhs, social services etc which will cost the treasury billions.