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Plumbing the depths - Page 2 - Carers UK Forum

Plumbing the depths

Discuss news stories and political issues that affect carers.
Envy, yes probably, some are jealous because they see someone getting something that they think of as getting for free something that they've had to work for. They seem to over look the point that the benefit system is suppose to be of benefit for those that can't work etc.
They also overlook the fact that many of us have worked and contributed before we had to give up our jobs, sometimes jobs which not only were well-paid but which we also enjoyed, and live on benefits.

I note that the story has changed, originally Horton was detained for his own safety, now it seems that he was detained on suspicion of harassment.

I have no idea whether Hannibal was guilty of benefit fraud or the other allegations which the Hortons have made against him, he has never been convicted, neither does the Daily Mail nor do the commentators who have found him guilty on hearsay evidence provided by the Hortons, the Hortons have got what they want, the Hannibals have put their house on the market, new bathroom and all, no wonder the Hortons look so smug..
So which one is the NFH?

It's not always the victim that gets to stay, as we know, Annie.
I think that you will find that it is rarely the victim who gets to stay in their home in social housing, it is much easier and less costly to offer the victim alternative accommodation than it is to evict the perpetrator.

The problem with this approach, as well as the lack of justice, is that, unlike home-owners, the victim often has a very limited choice of properties, not all of them suitable for their needs, and loses any money which they have invested in the home which they are leaving, not to mention the wrench of leaving a home which you have put effort and care into and the memories it holds which is true of anyone who moves because of the behaviour of a neighbour or neighbours.

We were lucky, we escaped social housing and the poor management which is so often associated with this type of tenure, including the failure to tackle harassment passing tenants onto the police who then pass them back to the HA, and have lovely neighbours where we now live Image .
You could be right about them begrudging the disabled even existing, Vicky, seeing us as a drain on society and on their personal pockets and we have all come across people who think that it would be "better" for the disabled if they had never been born, couching it in terms of pain and suffering when only a person who is disabled can determine whetherhis or her life is worth living. Of course many of us have do work or have worked and contributed and continue to contribute in other ways, something the Daily Mail readers and their ilk conveniently fail to acknowledge.
Gone are the days when disabled were automatically locked away. Some disabilities can't be diagnosed before birth or even at birth. Autism, for example, doesn't become noticeable until the person is older and you can even be a genius and be on the Autistic Spectrum. I have a son who at least was both on the Able and Gifted Child Register and the Special Educational Needs Register at the same time- he's diagnosed with Autism. He wants to be an astronomer and he has the brains to so long as he gets the right support it is possible he could become an astronomer- he'd be a hard working one too because astronomy is his special interest (with a job he didn't find interesting he would be a very difficult employee). He would need support though due to his Autism.
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Thye stats bear out that depressing thought, it is very difficult to evict people for antisocial behaviour because public authorities have a duty to rehouse them] * In 2009-10 1,262 local authority tenants lost their homes as a result of eviction action. 748 tenants were evicted and 514 abandoned their property after an eviction order had been granted. [1]
* In 2009-10 942 housing association tenants lost their homes as a result of eviction action. 668 tenants were evicted and 274 abandoned their property after an eviction order had been granted. [2]
* The majority of evictions in the social rented sector were for non-payment of rent, with anti-social behaviour accounting for less than 4 per cent of cases.
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Our ex-neighbour has a mentally handicapped grown up daughter and she actually looks down her nose at hubby in his wheelchair (or used to).

Where's the sense in that? She's a carer. I'm a carer. Yet she looks down on me, too.

We are so glad we moved, got away from all the stress she caused, all the complaining and distainful looks and actual damage to our property, pulling up our plants and throwing her rose bush offcuts under our trailer and cars.
Never understood why, we were both in the same boat.

The daughter never goes anywhere, has no friends and is constantly bullied and yelled at by her mother, always wagging her finger at her (which is actually classed as threatening behaviour). If there's anyone who's hidden away and not allowed out, because of her disability, then it's this lady.
The daughter never goes anywhere, has no friends and is constantly bullied and yelled at by her mother, always wagging her finger at her (which is actually classed as threatening behaviour). If there's anyone who's hidden away and not allowed out, because of her disability, then it's this lady.
Some carers are also abusers: and some lazy local authorities effectively withdraw from providing protection for vulnerable adults unless there are numerous complaints from neighbours: it suits them not to intervene because intervention is so expensive.

If I were you I would write to the Director of Social Services in your area, citing your own observations, and CC'ing the letter to your MP and local councillor. That usually does the trick.
Some carers are also abusers
Sadly, this is true. And it's very likely that in this case, as in others, the stress of caring without support has led to it - and the carer would be mortified if they realised what they were doing. Even so, in any case where you suspect abuse, it's vital to report it.

Child abuse gets a lot of publicity (and a lot more funding) but adult abuse is virtually ignored. At the time of Victoria Climbie there was an elderly lady who died of horrific injuries including cigarette burns. Barely a word in the media or in the House - and yet it was at least as preventable given the number of professionals in contact.