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Housing : Social Tenants / BTL & HB Problems / Shortages / Grenfell Tower Fallout - Page 20 - Carers UK Forum

Housing : Social Tenants / BTL & HB Problems / Shortages / Grenfell Tower Fallout

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Right to buy ... and whose really profiting ?

Several earlier threads spell out exactly who is profiting !
Chris From The Gulag wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:36 am
Right to buy ... and whose really profiting ?

Several earlier threads spell out exactly who is profiting !
Not least the majority of MPs.
A mere 2 in 5 have declared interests in the BTL sector , Colin.

That's not , of course , sampling the Upper House ... and the vested interests in land through hereditary ?

History has proven that land has a nasty habit of being " Acquired " somewhat illegally throughout the ages ???

A tarnished history of war / greed / murder / fraud ... just like many other " Trades " in 2019 ?
Chris From The Gulag wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:11 pm
A mere 2 in 5 have declared interests in the BTL sector , Colin.

That's not , of course , sampling the Upper House ... and the vested interests in land through hereditary ?

History has proven that land has a nasty habit of being " Acquired " somewhat illegally throughout the ages ???

A tarnished history of war / greed / murder / fraud ... just like many other " Trades " in 2019 ?
Nothing has really changed in the last 100 or more years apart from technology of which we can only see snippets of but never have access to.
100 ?

Make than 1,000 ... medieval times / Lords of the manor.

2019 ... just a subtle variation of the same old theme ... 5% owning 95% of the wealth ?

Perhaps a few more mouths to feed ... within that 5% ?
More than 50 tower-block owners refusing to remove Grenfell-style cladding, Theresa May admits.

Prime minister accused of '" Stench of complacency ", 19 months after the catastrophic fire that claimed 72 lives


More than 50 tower-block owners are still refusing to remove dangerous Grenfell-style cladding, Theresa May has admitted – seven months after the government vowed to act.

The prime minister was accused of overseeing a “stench of complacency”, putting lives in jeopardy, 19 months after the catastrophic fire in the London high-rise that claimed 72 lives.

Last June, Ms May first threatened to force private owners of blocks to pay up for the work and her then-local government minister vowed that a solution would be “put in place swiftly”.

Facing fierce questioning in the Commons, she insisted cladding had, or would be, removed at more than 200 buildings, but added: “There are 56 owners that are refusing to remediate.”

The admission came after Sarah Jones, a Labour MP, warned the tragedy at Grenfell remained “just the tip of the iceberg”, affecting many thousands of people.

“The prime minister promised, after the Grenfell tower fire, that she would do whatever it takes to keep our people safe,” she said, at prime minister’s questions.

“Today, 19 months on, the vast majority, 85 per cent, of the hundreds of blocks draped in exactly the same highly-flammable cladding are still covered.

“Thousands of council and private buildings across the country don’t have sprinklers, despite the fire service saying they are essential.”

Condemning a “stench of complacency”, the Croydon Central MP added: “When will the prime minister be able to tell this country that she has honoured her promise?”

A clearly discomforted Ms May replied: “We have repeatedly called on private building owners not to pass costs on to leaseholders.

“As a result of our interventions, 212 owners have either started, completed, or have commitments in place to remediate.

“There are 56 owners that are refusing to remediate. We are maintaining pressure on this, but we rule nothing out.”

However, that phrase was virtually identical to the words the prime minister used last June, when she told MPs she was “not ruling anything out” if owners failed to act.

James Brokenshire, the then-local government minister, then announced a new taskforce, vowing it would “hold them [owners] to account where they have unsafe cladding systems”.

The government provided hundreds of millions of pounds to strip combustible cladding from social housing, ahead of a ban on its use on new buildings, which came into force last month.

Ministers also insist they have made significant progress on private tower blocks since last summer, when there were more than 200 with no plans for cladding removal.

However, the latest official figures show that it has been taken off only 30 of 268 buildings, with work having started at another 18.

A further 126 say they “have a remediation plan in place” and 38 say they “intend to remediate and are developing plans”.



Short of a " Second " Grenfell Tower , what else is needed to focus the minds of our politicians on the REAL DANGER to lives here ?

Even then , everybody would be running for cover , a rigged game of musical chairs , leaving some poor underlings to carry the can.

Akin to the probabal conclusion of the Grenfell Tower inquiry ... stops at the 12th. floor rather than the penthouse suite ?
Welcome to the Wild West ... BTL London style !

London’s exploited tenants deserve proper rights – not just rent controls.

Sadiq Khan is right to talk about restricting extortionate rents – but safety, security and quality of life must also be addressed.



When Anabel and her flatmates were told the rent in their Kentish Town houseshare was due to increase by £400 a month, all of them had to find a new place to live. In the space of just a few years, increases by Ghazal’s landlord left her paying 80% of her wages on her Forest Gate accommodation, on a monthly rent bill that jumped from £700 to £1,300. Kenny’s Clapton landlord is currently trying to up the rent from £2,000 to £2,400 on the three bedroom ex-council flat he shares with three others, just two years after a previous 20% hike.

Renters in London struggle every month to make ends meet, spending the bulk of earnings to live in what’s often cramped, insecure and poor quality housing. Our rents rise faster than our wages, and we rarely get much choice over where we’re able to live. In Newham, some of the members of our London Renters Union spend 80% of their monthly income on housing, with little left for basics like food and clothing. Without big changes, many of us will be stuck paying rising monthly rents until we retire.

We’re pleased, then, that the mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, is listening to what people have been saying for years and is working on plans for rent controls – even if we’re also hesitant to put much faith in the announcement, without further details on the table.

As the mayor outlined in Wednesday’s announcement, average private rents in London rose by 38% between 2005 and 2016, and Londoners pay more for a one-bedroom flat in their city than for a three-bedroomed house in any other English region. Tackling the impossible costs of renting is a crucial first step in making sure everyone in our city can have a safe and secure home.

In contrast to some of the comments coming from the government and the media, rent controls are not a radical policy. In fact, they are the norm in Paris and Berlin, and have even helped stabilise housing costs in New York. The policy is also popular: 68% of Londoners in a YouGov survey support rent control.

We’re often told that a free hand on rent levels is needed to incentivise landlords to provide more and better housing. It’s a rosy promise not reflected in our own lives and communities. In a system that prioritises profit, we see landlords charging extortionate sums for shoddy conditions and no security. We still have no choice but to cough up.

That’s why we’re glad to see rent controls being taken seriously – but this is just a first step. We need to see detail. Rent is already unaffordable, so we need rent controls which sustainably bring down rents, and ensure that they are in line with local incomes – not simply slow their increase or peg them at their current unaffordable levels.

And while it is good that Khan is advocating rent controls, he has no power to implement them. It remains to be seen how he will convince a government full of private landlords to put a ceiling on what they can squeeze from ordinary Londoners.

We also know that rent controls alone will not fix the private rented sector.


Renters in the UK have among the weakest rights in Europe: we need to address the laws that make renting insecure and unsafe, as well as expensive. That means an end to no-fault evictions – now the chief driver of rising homelessness in England. The London Renters Union, along with the community-based union ACORN and Generation Rent, is fighting to scrap section 21 of the 1988 Housing Act, removing the constant threat of eviction that hangs over private renters.

We need to make private renting a secure tenure. In England the standard tenancy length is just six months. But in Scotland it is now open-ended, or lifetime. Adopting this policy in the capital would make private renting a more stable way to build a life for London’s three million renters.

We need to end discrimination against private renters claiming benefits, and outlaw “No DSS” stipulation in rental ads. We need an end to the right to rent legislation, that obliges landlords and letting agents to act as border guards, as part of the racist “hostile environment” policy that attacks the most vulnerable renters in our communities.

London’s renters need homes that are safe, secure and comfortable, from which we can build fulfilling lives, and that we can afford. Our current system, fixed on delivering profits for landlords, is giving us the opposite. It needs to be transformed to put the needs of people first – rent controls are an important step on the way to that.
Another great achievement of the Grantham witch ,flogging off council houses,well it was going on before she got into no 10 .
I have got no right to say anything about it ,i thought about buying my parents council house .
No problem there , David !

Somebody comes along an offers you an essential ... normally retailing at , say , £ 100 ... for £ 60 ... snap his / her hand off !

The " Problem " was not created by anyone doing just that , it was down to the seller ... selling off essentially OUR assets at a
knock down price , and then not replacing them !!!!!!!!!!!!
My local rag for this one ... the Worksop Guardian :


Thousands on waiting list for social housing in Bassetlaw.

Housing charity Shelter said the figures are “chilling” and called for the Government to increase the funding for new social homes.

The latest Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government (MHCLG) data shows that in March 2018 there were 3,326 households on the housing waiting list in Bassetlaw, 14 per cent higher than two years earlier. Of those, 324 were households living in unhygienic or overcrowded housing, while a further 103 had to move due to a medical condition.

In Bassetlaw, there were 33 vacant homes by the end of March 2018, all of them owned by the council.


Coun Steve Scotthorne, Cabinet Member for Housing at Bassetlaw District Council, said: “Like many other areas across the country, Council Housing in Bassetlaw is under great pressure and we would undoubtedly welcome additional funding from the Government to build more Council Houses in our district to try and meet this demand.

“The council currently owns 6,725 properties which, over time has been eroded by to Right to Buy applications, and in the last 12 months we have lost more than 40 properties through this process.

“However, despite this Bassetlaw is being proactive and over the last six years, with the help of funding from Homes England, we have built or are in the process of building 144 modern, comfortable and energy efficient homes to try and replace what has been lost or has become outdated. This includes flats, houses and bungalows that provide much needed homes for young people, families and older tenants.

“We cannot address this problem alone though and we work with Housing Associations to provide people on our waiting list with more choice and opportunities. Since April 2018 we have helped more than 100 applicants to find a new home through a Housing Association.

“We also work with private landlords and home owners to bring long-term empty properties back into use. This is in addition to working with house builders to include a mix of social housing properties when new developments are created.”

Over the last years, Bassetlaw’s social housing stock has remained steady.

By the end of March 2017, there were 8,130 social and council homes — 6,820 owned by the council and 1,310 by housing associations.

A spokesman for the MHCLG said: “We still need to deliver more, better, faster so we have given councils the freedom to build a new generation of council houses.”




144 new homes being built ... 3,326 on the housing waiting list.

You do the maths for a change !

( More than 20+ years for some ??? )

Repeat ... manor by manor ... nationwide ???
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