MORE ABOUT CARER'S ALLOWANCE AND THE STATE PENSION

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Iv signed also, thank you.
Hi there,

So far our petition, which calls on government to change the overlapping benefit rules, to enable older carers to receive both carer’s allowance and state pension, has attracted 58 signatures.

We are very grateful to those who have signed it, but urge others to do so.

Up to now, details of the petition have been viewed by over 560 people on Carers UK Forum. If you have read the information, please sign the petition. It takes very little time.

The present situation involves a blatant injustice. 580,000 people receive carer’s allowance (Caring, February 2013).

They receive it, because society recognizes the essential role that carers play. Yet, as soon as carers start to receive state pension, carer’s allowance is removed from them – even though their caring responsibilities will not have diminished; in fact, they may well have increased.

Signing our petition also helps to send a clear message to this government: instead of cutting benefits, make sure that they are available to those who need them; and (as in this case), where there is an injustice, put it right.

Thank you for your support.

David and Jenny
Hi David

Don't take the 560 views too much to heart: they are counted every time someone looks - I've looked at this at least 5 times and each one will have been counted in the 560. That's likely to have been repeated quite a bit.
Well, whether you read the information about our petition only once or many times, please also sign it!

Best wishes,

David and Jenny
can of worms ...overlapping benefits ..if carers are entitlled to both state pension and carers allowance what of war widows i have campaigned for years re war widows with full N.I. contributions who on becomeing a war widow have their state pension reduced ..in most cases war widows receive a state pension of less then £20 per week even if they paid , as i say full N.I. during their working lifetime , this would lead to an end of all overlapping benefits of which we have many ..the bill would be massive ......can you tell me how many pensioner carers do we have who have lost the carers allowance on reaching pensionable age ..which as we know will rise to 66 , 67, 68 and on and on ...we could pay for this by means testing the carers allowance and remove it from those who have so called large private occupational pensions and like some tory M.P`s have hinted should we pay for a friend or neighbour to be a carer this benefit saved could well pay for a state pensioner carer to be entilted to both carers allowance and the state retirement pension ...in this day and age we get nowt for nowt as we say ..
CARER'S ALLOWANCE AND STATE PENSION

Responsible department: Department for Work and Pensions


We regard as unfair and unacceptable the current position whereby carers become ineligible for carer’s allowance, once they are in receipt of state pension. It is not as if caring responsibilities cease as a result of payment of state pension.

We wish to see this rule changed by the government, so that older carers can receive both carer’s allowance and state pension.


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Number of signatures:70Created by:Dr David Mills Daniel and Mrs Jennifer A. DanielClosing:12/05/2013 10:55
The issue of carer’s allowance and state pension should be judged on its own merits.

For us, the issue is a very simple one. Carers qualify for carer’s allowance, because they have caring responsibilities. If these caring responsibilities continue, they should go on receiving carer’s allowance.

Therefore, the current “overlapping benefit” rules, which deny carer’s allowance to carers on state pension, are unfair and unacceptable. They should be scrapped.

This is why we will continue to call on government to change this unjust rule, so that older carers can receive both carer’s allowance and state pension. We urge other carers to do the same – and, of course, to sign our petition.

Best wishes,

David and Jenny
sadly due to the "laws " of this once great country you cant pick and mix, the law is the law end of. we have rules re overlapping benefits and if lifetd for one all others would then have to be lifted ...the coalition if they really do value pensioner carers could bring forward legislation/ changes to the benefit system re pensioner/carers ......but for obvious reasons they wont ..nor will Labour ...........also should a pensioner carer be paid both state retirement pension and carers allowance if they care for , not a spouse or close family member but a friend or neighbour ..many tory M.P`s are now looking at the payment of the C.A. for those who care for others and not close family members ....watch this manifesto place .......if they stop the C.A. to those who care for friends or neighbours the cash saved could be used to pay pensioner carers who care for a spouse or family member ....and i retire soon 2016 on the new universal pension £145 per week instead of £110 is that enough for me to vote tory ...
One of the factors that made our country great, in the past, was people’s willingness to challenge unjust laws and regulations; and we need to go on doing so.

There is absolutely no reason why the overlapping benefits rules should not be changed, to enable older carers to receive both state retirement pension and carer’s allowance.

A key point here is that, although they are lumped together as “earnings replacement benefits”, state retirement pension is a contributory benefit (people receive it on the basis of the national insurance contributions they have made), whereas carer’s allowance is a non-contributory benefit (people receive it in recognition of their caring responsibilities).

Therefore, changing the overlapping benefits in the way we are proposing would secure justice for older carers, by enabling them to continue to receive carer’s allowance (the non-contributory benefit for carers), while also receiving the state retirement pension, to which they are entitled on the basis of their national insurance contributions.

Yes, it would cost the state money, but we believe that some expenditure is justified, in order to treat older carers fairly.

Best wishes,

David and Jenny
Our petition calling for a change to the overlapping benefit rules, to allow carers to continue to receive carer’s allowance when they become eligible for state retirement pension, ended on 12/05/2013.

It attracted 73 signatures.

While we are very grateful to all those who signed it, we wish that there had been more.

The injustice continues, and, for all the reasons you can read on these pages, the current position needs to be changed.

We have started another petition, which will run until 14/05/2014. It has exactly the same wording as the first:

We regard as unfair and unacceptable the current position whereby carers become ineligible for carer’s allowance, once they are in receipt of state pension. It is not as if caring responsibilities cease as a result of payment of state pension.

We wish to see this rule changed by the government, so that older carers can receive both carer’s allowance and state pension.


It can be found at:

https://submissions.epetitions.direct.g ... ions/50011

If you signed it before, please sign it again.

If you didn’t sign it before, please do so now.

And please spread the word, and encourage other people to sign it.

Best wishes,

David and Jenny