Just spent ages typing a contribution, hit the wrong button and lost the lot.
Ok. The system needs to be overhauled and they are gong to do this by hook or by crook.
Take a step back, we are in power (in our dreams). Who should be exempt from the medical?
Malc's wife, Eun's son, Kat's mum, my daughter, LD eldest son..who?
We know what we think (and I know what I think) but where and who decides? Terminal means at some point there is a surety of death due to illness, does it mean when? Do those who have maybe a year to live have exemption or those who have 3 years do not?
And for those who do not have terminal conditions but are of a mental state that they cannot answer the questions or it would be profoundly disturbing for them to do so, should they have to attend?
Does the fact that these assessments be done at home for those who cannot attend make any difference at all?
This thread has wavered off it's purpose as these things do. We have gone through Ghanain farmers etc, why it is beyond me. Are we better off than them? Couldn't say because their families may be poor but healthy and able to work for the pittance they get. Plus do we want to take a look at the corrupt governments of so many of these countries who keep their people in poverty? No? No, because it's not relevant to what we are talking about.
Guess the bottom line is we are also talking about empathy and understanding. We expect the governments (whoever they are) to see that our carees shouldn't have to go through this process, especially as the experts have said they shouldn't. We expect common sense but we expect too much..why do we even think they will afford us this?
Empathy has been shown to be lacking here on this thread but then again, there is no actual requirement for it, we just kind of expect other carers to have it. Maybe too much expectation on our part..
For the rest of us who have it and who can imagine ourselves in the situations that some find themselves in, we feel for them. I know what my daughter and I went through with the ESA medical and how I felt. I know what I went through when I too used to wonder why she hadn't got up in the morning, why there wasn't a sound from her room and the fear that used to flash through me, so yes I get it. Not because I choose to focus on it but because I have lived it.
I have lived with somebody with a deeply disturbed mind so I get that too. Even if i hadn't lived it I think I would still "get it"..because I am a carer too.
But I am going to throw off my empathy and ask "who and why"..why not your wife, husband, son, daughter, mother, father, brother, sister? Where DOES the line get drawn? And this I suspect is the problem, if you see what I mean.
The assessments - I do not know what they will involve but working on the assumption that those in need will be visited at home (yes, I know..but let's just work with it)..what is the worst that can happen? That our caree will be upset or anxious or disturbed, that we will be angry at the sheer bloody stupidness of it all..same goes for those that have to visit an assessment centre.
We have all got cases we can quote, reasons why it shouldn't happen but it's going to. So..please refer to my question above.
Thanks and please don't shoot me.