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ESA-private information seen by Royal mail?

Postby ladybird » Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:40 pm

I have just found a post about this on another site (unrelated) and it gave this link.

http://www.bhfederation.org.uk/componen ... -post.html

Has anybody heard about it? If it is true..well, words fail me. :x
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Re: ESA-private information seen by Royal mail?

Postby Sparklingtechie » Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:45 pm

I cannot find it on snopes or any of the other check sites. It reads real. It's also illegal to open mail not addressed to you or your spouse or dependants.
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Re: ESA-private information seen by Royal mail?

Postby charles47 » Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:01 pm

Hmm. Big pinch of salt required - not enough detail in the report to explain what they really mean by "mail opened", etc.

If internal mail is now contracted out to mail handlers, for example, rather than using (more expensive) Civil Servants?
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Re: ESA-private information seen by Royal mail?

Postby michael parker » Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:20 pm

Well nothing really surprises me anymore,but i just wonder why postal workers have to sign a section of the official secrets act if they are not going to be monitored,and if this has some sort of official backing,then to what purpose.Could they all have been working for the News of the World.With so much information out there and up for grabs one wonders why we ever need to fill in a form again. :roll: :roll:
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Re: ESA-private information seen by Royal mail?

Postby Parsifal » Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:31 pm

It is true, I have known about it for some time, before it became more widely known. Dare I say that if it is anything like the actual postal service it probably accounts for the number of forms which go missing? I think that the issue of confidentiality is more of a problem if you live where the mail is opened and might know the person opening the envelope containing your form.
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Re: ESA-private information seen by Royal mail?

Postby charles47 » Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:27 am

Parsifal wrote:It is true, I have known about it for some time, before it became more widely known. Dare I say that if it is anything like the actual postal service it probably accounts for the number of forms which go missing? I think that the issue of confidentiality is more of a problem if you live where the mail is opened and might know the person opening the envelope containing your form.

But of course, that's also the issue if you know a person who works in one of the local benefit offices.
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Re: ESA-private information seen by Royal mail?

Postby Parsifal » Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:11 am

Absolutely, or any number of government of local government departments where sensitive data is held, the NHS for example where research found numerous breaches of confidentiality, including nurses looking at family and neighbours' computerised medical records and windows left open where anyone could read the patient information.
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Re: ESA-private information seen by Royal mail?

Postby charles47 » Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:21 pm

My sister in law had swine flue at the beginning of the year. She was in a side room but her notes were in a docket outside in the corridor. Literally anyone could have read them and not been queried.

We have far more stringent arrangements than that at home, let alone at work!
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Re: ESA-private information seen by Royal mail?

Postby Parsifal » Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:27 am

I had an outpatient appointment at the Royal London Hospital a few years ago, the patient files were left unattended on treatment trolleys in the main entrance to the clinics and outside the consultation rooms, I could have picked up anyone's records and read them.
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Re: ESA-private information seen by Royal mail?

Postby poppett » Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:36 am

BA mail for Inverness no longer goes to their office in Church Street, but to the sorting office on Strothers Lane where I believe it is opened before it goes to Church Street.
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Re: ESA-private information seen by Royal mail?

Postby cheryl » Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:51 am

Parsifal wrote:I had an outpatient appointment at the Royal London Hospital a few years ago, the patient files were left unattended on treatment trolleys in the main entrance to the clinics and outside the consultation rooms, I could have picked up anyone's records and read them.



And you didn't :shock: WOW that some restraint you have :lol:

I do it all the time specially if the usual magazines are old and out of date I mean tsay what else is there to do......can't be expected to just sit there hour after hour staring at the wall????? mmmm even been tempted to add my own thoughts to the notes :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: ESA-private information seen by Royal mail?

Postby donald fowler » Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:32 am

Sorry about this late posting. Does anyone know if this has been referred to the INFORMATION COMMISSIONERS OFFICE (ICO)? df :x
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