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Q&A with Carers UK Chairman on Friday 3 Nov

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:06 am
by Michael Carers UK
Dear Carers UK members

Carers UK's Chairman David Grayson will be coming into the office on Friday 3rd November and has offered to run a question and answer session on the forum from 11.30am to 1.00pm. David will welcoming questions (within this thread) on any aspects of Carers UK's work.

I hope many of you will be able to join David at this time, especially if you were unable to attend our recent AGM/Members' Conference or any of the Roadshow events we've held during 2017.

If you are unable to join David on Friday please post your questions here beforehand and David will answer them while he is in the office.

Please let me know if you've any questions.

Best Wishes

Michael

Re: Q&A with Carers UK Chairman on Friday 3 Nov

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:36 am
by Henrietta
Hi Michael
I should like to welcome David to the forum and ask him, what kind of progress is being made lobbying the government on their proposals to introduce a reasonable cap to self funders providing care at home as opposed to in a care home. It is a huge issue that they were going to include the house in the financial assessment - the u turn made during the last election campaign. It has all gone quiet since and as we have a gov't being propped up by a second party, it may have been shelved for now but it is a really major issue for people like myself and important the government are made to listen.

Re: Q&A with Carers UK Chairman on Friday 3 Nov

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:08 am
by Chris From The Gulag
Lord Kitch ?

https://www.carersuk.org/forum/news-and ... rd%20kitch

All our majors issues detailed in one place ... the 2017 version of the 2008 Carers Letter.

Same issues and a few more ... still outstanding from 9 YEARS ago.

The concern raised by Henrietta will be included once the Government's position is clearer !

Will our LK get a mention ... plenty on there to last a day let alone an hour ?

If nothing else , a comparison with Carers UK's own , selected , policies ?

A dilemma for Carers UK ... unable to take on ( Charity status reaffirmed earlier this year ) and yet vital for the survival of many carers amongst the 6+ million ???

Re: Q&A with Carers UK Chairman on Friday 3 Nov

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:05 pm
by Chris From The Gulag
If one is seeking specific questions , a follow on from the last session with one of the hierachy.
Care Act 2014

" 375.000 or thereabouts to benefit " ... Government's own words.

( 6 million carers ... 1 in 16 ... why so low in the first place ? ).

If we were hospital doctors , would we leave the patient in a non responsive state or , turn off life support ?

375,000 ... be generous , just knock off one 0 ... 37,500 ... perhaps half ... 18,750 ... still a little too generous ?

3 years on ... too early to call ( Optimistic ) or ... about right ( Realistic ) ?

For once , the Government was NOT to blame ... the financial restraints on the LAs were already in place , and clearly to be seen.

ANY new obligation placed on the LAs would have been doomed to failure for that very reason.

Obviously , if a LA has their usual tick sheet ... and a category ... SERVICE OFFERED BUT REFUSED ... usual case when the end user cannot afford the support offered to him / her ... will that count as a " Success " in terms of the numbers " Benefiting " from the provisions of the Care Act ?


Usual barbed comment ... " Perhaps if the originators had liaised with end users themselves , problems with the reducing services and cutbacks since 2004 posted on virtually all carer / caree forums , they would have ANTICIPATED the end result by inserting some form of ring fencing and / or secured additional Government funding to ensure that the provisions of said Act could be met ? "

The originators have only themselves to blame ... as for carers and carees ... ?

In short , doomed to failure even before being passed into Law !!!

Perhaps one of them would like to explain that ... to Luke Davey ... and thousands , if not hundreds of thousands , of others ?

A morale ?

Listern and LEARN from the end users ... carers and carees alike !

Would be par for the course for some of the originators ending up with honours ... " For services to carers and carees alike " ???

In our world , WE are the professionals !

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Care Act thread :

https://www.carersuk.org/forum/news-and ... 2014-27850

Re: Q&A with Carers UK Chairman on Friday 3 Nov

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:02 am
by Chris From The Gulag
If David suffers the same fate as others ... very quiet session ... some rhetorical " thoughts " to hold in reserve :

Fast forward to 2022 ... 5 years ... economy on the brink ... more inclination for charities to merge operations , keeping separate identities ... sharing admin / tech facilities ... Carers Radio borrowed by others ( Move towards a real Social Care internet channel with guests galore providing help and guidance / the odd politician or two ) ... closer liaison as " We are now all in this together " ... formation of special units to deal with the challenges of 2022 ... legislation to sort out " Charities " into categories ( Many private enterprise organisations who number one priority is a return on capital are today also registered as charities ... wolves in sheep's clothing ) ... a one stop austerity centre in larger towns / cities ... use of skilled volunteers amongst each organisations ranks as opposed to " Outside " paid management ... re-engaging with the grass roots to prevent meltdown ... new style business plans to reflect change in donating to charities ( Impact of the Trussells model )

Just a few ... I hope that members of Carers UK respect David's efforts later on this morning ... it won't be easy given whats going on at street level in CarerLand ... in some parts , the hatches have already been battened down before the winter / UC rollout / letting agents ( No benefit tenants ) / record levels of council tax arrears / petty crime levels increasing / influx of cheap street drugs / food bank record level of supplies / closure of shops ahead of the quarter's rent / charity shop closures with the food banks moving in on their traditional supplies ... some like a mini department store.

Re: Q&A with Carers UK Chairman on Friday 3 Nov

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:31 am
by David 2016
Good morning to any fellow members on the forum right now. I am David (Grayson) and I chair the board of Carers UK. I was a working carer for a number of years, caring for my late parents up in Sheffield

Re: Q&A with Carers UK Chairman on Friday 3 Nov

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:32 am
by bowlingbun
I am a pensioner carer, don't receive any CA any more because I'm on a pension.
My son has severe learning difficulties, government cuts to funding led to a cut in my son's funded care hours. He can only live safely in his flat if I care for him without any pay whatsoever alternate weekends. I have my own health issues. Either my son with a mental age is left alone in his flat for 19 hours each weekend, or I have him home with me to keep him safe. I'm being forced to care although my consultant has said I should never care for anyone ever again!
Carers are being severely affected by LA funding cuts. What is CUK doing to help pensioner carers?

Re: Q&A with Carers UK Chairman on Friday 3 Nov

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:35 am
by Chris From The Gulag
Hi David ... one of us ? ... makes a refreshing change.

Sheffield ... up the A57 from me ... you have my sympathy !

The stage is yours ... no time to sweep for any mines ... I'll monitor and be available should others not appear.

Good luck ... 2017 bunch are fairly docile ... no snipers spotted as I type.

Left some thoughts should you need some material.

Re: Q&A with Carers UK Chairman on Friday 3 Nov

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:40 am
by David 2016
Henrietta wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:36 am
Hi Michael
I should like to welcome David to the forum and ask him, what kind of progress is being made lobbying the government on their proposals to introduce a reasonable cap to self funders providing care at home as opposed to in a care home. It is a huge issue that they were going to include the house in the financial assessment - the u turn made during the last election campaign. It has all gone quiet since and as we have a gov't being propped up by a second party, it may have been shelved for now but it is a really major issue for people like myself and important the government are made to listen.
Thank you, Henrietta, for your question.

The Government has said it will look at the future funding of social care for older people and for disabled people of working age in parallel. The Department of Health has said it will publish proposals for public consultation. It’s not clear when exactly this will be but we’re expecting it towards the end of this year/beginning of next. We will be encouraging members to respond to the consultation and seeking views to inform our advocacy work.

Re: Q&A with Carers UK Chairman on Friday 3 Nov

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:44 am
by David 2016
bowlingbun wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:32 am
I am a pensioner carer, don't receive any CA any more because I'm on a pension.
My son has severe learning difficulties, government cuts to funding led to a cut in my son's funded care hours. He can only live safely in his flat if I care for him without any pay whatsoever alternate weekends. I have my own health issues. Either my son with a mental age is left alone in his flat for 19 hours each weekend, or I have him home with me to keep him safe. I'm being forced to care although my consultant has said I should never care for anyone ever again!
Carers are being severely affected by LA funding cuts. What is CUK doing to help pensioner carers?
Good morning bowling bun: we are very conscious of the growing number of older carers. We are as you know, campaigning on the amount of money that Government makes available for paid social care. We are calling for more funds. We are joining a group of other charities later this month to meet MPs and highlight the impact of cuts to paid social care.