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Personal budgets

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:53 pm
by Melly1
Does anyone's caree have one of these?

Has it been increased to take into account the rising costs of care e.g. due to the living wage, pensions, court case re sleep in carer workers etc?

Melly1

Re: Personal budgets

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:52 pm
by bowlingbun
M had one, but the amount awarded didn't cover the care he needed, and never increased, and I wasn't even told that the PA rates had increased. I became so disillusioned we went back onto commissioned care, and that's even worse.
I'm now asking for M to have a personal budget to be managed by an independent budget manager - have a look at the Care Act for full details. Good luck. It should mean that when you go away with S you get paid when you are caring for him!

Re: Personal budgets

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:09 pm
by MrsAverage
There is a court case going on at the moment where someone's budget was cut by 40%.
Not answering your question Melly, but relevant methinks. I'll try find a link later

Re: Personal budgets

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:30 pm
by Chris From The Gulag
Luke Davey case ?

BBC web site :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ox ... e-40959503

Better report on the Oxford Mail web site :

http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/154802 ... igh_Court/

Knock on effects will reverberate through the application of the Care Act , 2014.

No doubt , our supporting organisations are keeping a close eye on this one.

Re: Personal budgets

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:31 pm
by Melly1
Thanks for the info BB. There is no chance of that happening. Due to the rising costs his Life Skills day service hours have been cut, as his PB has not risen to take into account the rising cost of care. Keep me updated with how your latest plan for M's care develops.

Thanks Mrs A. Any info helpful at this stage.

Melly1

We cross posted Chris, I'll take a look now.

Re: Personal budgets

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:17 pm
by bowlingbun
Melly, that's not right.
As he has critical care needs, and presumably his care needs haven't reduced, they have a duty to meet assessed needs, and his personal budget should be sufficient to pay for this. Have you thought about getting Legal Aid?

Re: Personal budgets

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:37 pm
by MrsAverage
So if we extend what they are saying, anyone fully funded in a care home where the costs rise ( due for example to nmw) are the councils refusing to pay the Homes anything over what was originally agreed? I don't think so. If needs don't change but costs rise then those needs should be met.
I wonder if there is some sort of legal challenge here on grounds of discrimination?

Also local mp and councillor?

Re: Personal budgets

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:44 pm
by Chris From The Gulag
So if we extend what they are saying, anyone fully funded in a care home where the costs rise ( due for example to nmw) are the councils refusing to pay the Homes anything over what was originally agreed?


Quite a few reports of LA's sticking to set " Prices " recounted in several articles in the New Section.

Hence the knock on effect as so reported in said articles.on care homes / LA cutbacks.

Immediate result is the closure of many care homes on " Economic " grounds ... i.e. costs exceeding income.

Re: Personal budgets

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:08 pm
by Melly1
Mmm, thanks for food for thought. Problem is the service has cut hours of operation so that everyone can still access the service, but for a shorter time. Even if I challenged the reduction in real terms - the hours it runs are a little shorter. However, I can see the gap between what is in the PB and what the true cost of the assessed service widening, so shall start researching now. I wish his service had given more notice of this than 2 to 3 weeks.

Twice in his life I have had to get S legal aid and he's still only in his 20s.

Melly1

Re: Personal budgets

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:10 am
by MrsAverage
Oh Melly
It does seem a short sighted decision taken without any thought of the wider consequences. Like down here where day centres are closing with no alternative. The gap can only be filled with either extra hours of paid home carers ( and an increased budget to cover ) or extra hours of unpaid family carers.
Have you talked to the other parents?
I still think involving councillor and mp could at least bring stupidity and short-sightedness to wider audience. Then there's press of course.
What a bummer, and at the beginning of the holidays too. I wonder if a public info access search would show they've known and planned this for months?