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Another fatuous speech by a politican about 'home care'

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:16 am
by jenny lucas
Yet another fatuous speech, I read in the Times, from a politician urging Brits to be 'more like the ethnic communities' who care for their elderly at home and don't 'dump' them in care homes.

It's a female politician, so I'm really looking forward to HER giving up her fabulously interesting and well paid job to wipe bottoms and stare at the inside of her house 24x7 looking after HER parents.......

Those speeches just make me SEETHE.

Re: Another fatuous speech by a politican about 'home care'

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:42 am
by Henrietta
Are they going to build extra council houses for all the people who have to sell their homes to fund care? Perhaps it is all part of a master plan to get more available homes by making people sell the ones they have for care!

Re: Another fatuous speech by a politican about 'home care'

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:49 am
by Chris From The Gulag
Jackie Doyle-Price .... Conservative party conference ... article in the Independent :

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 82106.html

Ethnic minorities better at looking after elderly, says care minister.

'They bring with them cultural practices, and we used to have those,' Jackie Doyle-Price tells Tory party conference.


Best to read the full article as it reads like a throwback to the 1920s / 1930s.

Ethnic minorities ... how I distest labels ... fellow human beings ... touched apon several months ago as their approach to caring is somewhat different ... question asked at that time , can we learn from each other ?

Said authoress seems to have several bees in her designer bonnet about housing benefit ???

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24957 ... olicy=6672

Jackie Doyle-Price consistently voted for reducing housing benefit for social tenants deemed to have excess bedrooms (which Labour describe as the "bedroom tax")


Many of her constituents would find it odd ... working a 35 / 36 hour week ... and having to receive HB in order to pay their rent ... something's out of kilter ... whether is wages or rent ... that's a political argument.

A career mp ... if succesful first time around , she would be still wearing a Sheffield Wednesday scarf as opposed to a West Sham United rag ... perhaps a third team in the future if she is given the boot at the next election ?

So much for local concerns ... depends on where she is elected ?

Still , very much in support of Jenny's view .... those divorced from life at the grass roots level have no place on " Instructing " those with no option other than to try to continue to survive how they do so.

Re: Another fatuous speech by a politican about 'home care'

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:28 am
by jenny lucas
"Still , very much in support of Jenny's view .... those divorced from life at the grass roots level have no place on " Instructing " those with no option other than to try to continue to survive how they do so."

Precisely - that's what REALLY gets up my nose! THEY wouldn't dream of giving up their lives to look after ailing elderly parents!

The stupid woman seems to think that 'elderly care' consists of 'popping in and out' to make them a cup of tea!

GRRRRRR

(And, as I've said before, when anyone goes on about ethnic 'communities' looking after their elderly what they REALLY mean is the ETHNIC WOMEN DO THE CARING!!!!!!!)

Can the politicians not understand that it takes a TEAM of people to look after someone 24x7.........and a team that is ON CALL the entire time.

Re: Another fatuous speech by a politican about 'home care'

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:33 am
by Chris From The Gulag
Can the politicians not understand that it takes a TEAM of people to look after someone 24x7.........and a team that is ON CALL the entire time.


.... and for many lone carers , that team boils down to one in many cases.

I for one during a ten year stretch.

Re: Another fatuous speech by a politican about 'home care'

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:47 am
by bowlingbun
How many people these days have a spare ground floor bedroom with ensuite empty? Or a spare bedroom at all? My mum could never have lived in my house, from a practical point of view. I had to convert the garage into a downstairs bedroom when I was disabled, so I sleep in my own granny annexe.
(It's the family joke that when eldest son moved in he put mum in the garage to sleep. Strangers look aghast at me when I say it, I'm sure they have visions of me curled up in a sleeping bag under a Land Rover. It's actually a lovely room, with vaulted ceiling, en suite complete with washer dryer, Sky Plus and a window on three walls and in the door on the fourth.)

Re: Another fatuous speech by a politican about 'home care'

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:05 am
by Chris From The Gulag
Without deviating too much from the initial thread , those wanting to avoid the " Bedroom Tax " by downsizing ... in line with the Government's policy :

‘Big lie’ behind the bedroom tax :

Families trapped with nowhere to move face penalty for having spare room.

96% of benefit claimants who will be penalised cannot be rehoused.

Yet more than 19 out of 20 families hit by the bedroom tax are trapped in their larger homes because there is nowhere smaller within the local social housing stock to take them. This is shown by figures provided by councils in response to Freedom of Information requests by the Labour Party.

For the 38 councils that provided full data, 99,079 families are expected to be affected by the bedroom tax, but only 3,803 one and two-bedroom social housing properties are available – just 3.8 per cent of the homes required to rehouse the families who are hit.

Another 26 councils who responded said they expected a total of 45,669 families to be affected, but were unable to say how many smaller properties were available in their area.


That was from The Independent ... August 2013.

Now 2017 , any changes .... waiting lists to downsize grown / diminished ?

Re: Another fatuous speech by a politican about 'home care'

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:09 am
by Pet66
It's such a horrible statement. DUMP, in a care home. The visitors at hubby's, all wish they could look after their loved one at home, as do I. For all of us, it's impossible. I know some don't have visitors, but I don't know the circumstances as to why. Not for anyone to judge. I do know as Ive said in another post, one man is in a wheelchair, it's impossible for him to visit his wife without help, but he phones twice a day. All very well for politicians to give speeches. Wonder if they ever have the guilt monster kicking them?

Re: Another fatuous speech by a politican about 'home care'

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:26 pm
by jenny lucas
To be fair she didn't say 'dump' but that was the implication.

That said, of course she doesn't actually care tuppance how well or not elderly people are looked after or by who, she just doesn't want them getting any 'free care'.......(MPs have FAR more important things to spend our taxes on - like their salaries, Brexit negotiations, HS2 blah blah blah)

Re: Another fatuous speech by a politican about 'home care'

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:04 pm
by Claire_1710
And yet another! My MP, Craig Mackinlay, complained on air yesterday that not enough people in this country are prepared to look after their elderly family members. His wife is Hungarian (!) - apparently they have no residential care homes there as, according to Craig, families all look after their own elderly relatives.