Govt. response to petition to pay carers minimum hourly rate

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Shall we all go on strike and let them find out exactly how much it would cost to get 'paid staff' tto cover the hours we do?



Details of petition:

"pay carers the minimum hourly rate of pay for the hours they care. Carers work up to 24/7 but are only paid £46.95, paying carers the minimum hourly rate would give them over 4* that amount for the 35hours minimum that has to be done to claim carers allowance

Read the Government's response
The principal purpose of Carer's Allowance is to provide a measure of income maintenance for people who do not work full-time and provide care for a severely disabled person. It was never intended to be a carer's wage nor a payment for the services of caring, and is therefore not comparable with the National Minimum Wage.

Entitlement to Carer's Allowance depends on certain conditions relating to the circumstances of the disabled person and the carer being satisfied. The carer must provide a minimum of 35 hours care a week, and the disabled person must be receiving Attendance Allowance, the middle or highest rate care component of Disability Living Allowance or the equivalent rate of a Constant Attendance Allowance.

The 35-hour rule represents the minimum amount of care that a severely disabled person would be expected to need. Since the rate of Carer's Allowance is not affected by the amount of care provided, it cannot be considered as a wage for caring. This would be at odds with the purpose of the benefit.

Carers with limited resources can receive more substantial help from the income-related benefits like Income Support or Pension Credit which can all be paid at higher rates for carers.
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So, as carers we don't work?

How does that sit with what a Government minister said in 2003? I quote:

"Maria Eagle: My hon. Friend will be aware that, to qualify for the invalid care allowance, carers have to do at least 35 hours a week of caring. That is quite a lot. We have already increased the earnings limit, which means that, in addition to the £75 and allowable expenses, carers can keep in touch with the labour market.
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However, of the 450,000 carers, only 30,000 or so manage to combine part-time work with caring. We want to encourage them to do that when possible, but as I have said, they qualify for the benefit only if they work in a caring role for at least 35 hours a week. That leaves them with only a certain amount of spare time in which to work."

Perhaps Carers UK could ask Tony to answer the obvious question here?
Just to add insult to injury I've looked at the 'Social Care' website advertised in the adverts on TV to try to get more people working as 'social care workers ' looking after disabled people in the community and here is the quote from the section on pay......

Quote...Pay and Conditions
What is the pay like?
Your pay will depend on what work you are doing, who you are working for, and whereabouts in the country you are working. It will also depend on whether you are working shifts or weekends and bank holidays. As a guide, staff in residential care homes and home care earn on average £7.60 per hour, and in children's homes an average of over £10 per hour.

This is the section describing what the work would be, sound familiar anyone? Apart from getting the training and qualifications of course.

Quote.......Social care work is about helping people with their lives. People who have physical or psychological problems often require practical help coping with the everyday business of living. Social care workers provide this practical support.
It doesn't matter who you are, how old you are, or your academic qualifications, somewhere in your community there's a job that you can do helping others. If you like working with people, social care work offers a worthwhile job that could turn into a rewarding career.
You'll be given training in the skills you need to do the job well and there'll be plenty of opportunities to acquire more skills and qualifications such as NVQs. Some social care workers train to become social workers, with responsibility for assessing and planning the levels of support that people need.

Here's the link to the website just incase anyone wants to check out the details before having a good scream Image
http://www.socialworkandcare.co.uk/soci ... efault.asp
On Thursday I'm going to be lecturing some social work and medical students...money is one thing that always comes up.

I remember one GP telling me that carers only do it for the money.

It took a while but I believe I convinced her of the truth of the matter.
On Thursday I'm going to be lecturing some social work and medical students...money is one thing that always comes up.

I remember one GP telling me that carers only do it for the money.

It took a while but I believe I convinced her of the truth of the matter.
If you could ask them how many of them would work a minimum of 35hrs, maximum 168hrs per week, night and day with no paid holidays for the princely sum that is carers allowance (taxable of course and deducted from any other benefit that might be payable) and report back on how many felt it a viable career option I'd be very interested Image
TO everyone: The idea of going on strike is a wonderful suggestion, but what about a rally in london outside Westminster, get all the groups together and have a mass rally?
Sometimes that is the only thing that will move politicians. Also if everyone said that they will not vote at the next election that would frighten a few ministers into looking at our requests.
I think that i will do a piece on my site about witholding the vote , we need to hit the MPs where it hurts, and that is in votes, if they dont get voted for then they will loose their jobs, they wont like that will they. Sometimes direct action is all that is left for some groups? We need to show the public what carers actually do, most people think that we just cook people there teas or just pop people to bed, they have no idea what caring really involves.

Take care,best wishes.

TONY.
On Thursday I'm going to be lecturing some social work and medical students...money is one thing that always comes up.

I remember one GP telling me that carers only do it for the money.

It took a while but I believe I convinced her of the truth of the matter.
If you could ask them how many of them would work a minimum of 35hrs, maximum 168hrs per week, night and day with no paid holidays for the princely sum that is carers allowance (taxable of course and deducted from any other benefit that might be payable) and report back on how many felt it a viable career option I'd be very interested Image
Ann, have you been reading my script? I often find that students start out a little sceptical but this challenge - and some personal examples some of the carers I work with have allowed me to use - tends to make them think again. And no - I've never had one say "I'll take it!"
Ann, have you been reading my script? I often find that students start out a little sceptical but this challenge - and some personal examples some of the carers I work with have allowed me to use - tends to make them think again. And no - I've never had one say "I'll take it!"
Image Yes I've been reading it and you're obviously telling the students what the realities of caring are, shame that they seem to forget it as soon as they qualify and get into positions of authority.
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Travel to London ?!!!! Only if we re-morgatge to cover the costs. It can take a lot of planning just to get to the next town. I was thinking more on the lines of a one day 'withdrawal of labour' ( not that we officially work ) Image Something like taking our caree, with a supply of food, drink and essential medication, to the nearest warm social services office and saying ''Hello, I'm having one day off this year, kindly look after ( insert name here), after all you don't consider it work so it should be easy.'' and scarpering at high speed Image